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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I'm sure you can be an ill informed troll - you could hide under a bridge that no billy goats go over, for instance.
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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But then surely without genuinely being informed, the reaction to trolling would not occur? In order for something to be classed as trolling, then it needs to achieve the reaction from the intended target- even if passive and not ultimately responded to? That is why we can say 'don't feed the troll'... it's a acceptance that trolling has occurred, without exacerbating the impact with a response. Whether responded to or not, the troll MUST possess enough information, vis-a-vis s/he is informed enough to concoct the troll in the first place. Besides being 'informed' is the manifestation of holding information, (shall we call it 'truth' to maintain the facade of this metaphysical tangent?) Truth is rarely binary- it's linear with half truths, often riddled with exceptions and contradictions in real world examples. Take the 'define a skiff' debate, or whether 'Lasers are sh*t?'... there is no clear-cut truth, just an overwhelming sense of individualised interpretations, which in themselves, are all bona-fide 'truths' that can be utilised in trolling - but only if you are equally informed that someone else holds a differing interpretation from yourself. Therefore I think it's fair to say, you cannot be both a troll and ill-informed... they are preclusive by their very definitions. (the reason for this philosophical off-topic, to get Nessa to chip in...)
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GarethT ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 714 |
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Perhaps you've just proved that the troll merely has to think they are informed. ![]() |
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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contradiction there sir... how does someone who is alleged to be 'ill-informed' have the wherewithal to craft a troll? Surely the former precludes the latter?
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ex laser ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 25 Mar 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 725 |
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+ 2 please stay nessa, your posts are always well thought out and informative and help to balance out the ill informed trolling that passes for fact on this forum sometimes. Edited by ex laser - 18 Jan 13 at 12:03am |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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What is the matter with you lot? Have you gone soft in the head?
Wing wang, shape up now, don't be going all diva on us. Nothing said here we wouldn't hear in any changing room up and down the land. Be cool. No, er I know that's not possible, er calm down, take some of your tablets go back to you rooms and wait for matron to reassess your dose. |
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Rockhopper ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Nov 07 Location: Eastry Online Status: Offline Posts: 642 |
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+1 Aswell be shame to go
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Ian29937 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 409 |
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James, I got to say i think you are out of order mate. There are kids that post here and this is the second time within a month you have been offensive. Its such a shame as your posts are great. You dont need to appologise about their content just the language and terms you use to deliver some of your messages. I am guessing you are not a parent yet and a younger chap, but think for a second how you would feel if your 14 year old who was mad keen on sailing felt if they stumbled across your posts? its not about taking things in and out of context, its about how things read.
So please keep posting but please think about your audiance!
Nessa, please dont stop posting. Your contribution to this forum has been grat over the last few years and much valued by forumites and newbies alike.
Russ
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