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    Posted: 08 Oct 12 at 8:32pm
Originally posted by Peaky

I still believe there is a gap for a kited singlehanded that the 100 and D1 don't meet.

I agree but I do fear that Pondmonkey is right, and the 100 now has the single handed kite market sewn up.

But I'm with you on the smaller kite, round the cans target. The whole "a bigger kite gives you better VMG" argument, although correct is completely missing the point. If your worried about absolute performance then its fine but if your trying to make a boat thats just plain fun to sail then what's it matter. A smaller kite means more chances to fly it, which means more time spent blasting on two sail reaches and thus proportionally less time slogging back up wind.

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Quite so. And if you going to pay a grand for a,kite system, you may as well use it as often as possible.
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The Martin 16 disabled keelboat uses a flatish genniker that rolls up rather than being dropped - a small code zero style thing, I suppose. I can't say I like the look of it when setting on the Martin, but the concept could bear looking at. Windage, of course, upwind, being the main problem.

The more I sail assy spinnakered boats, the less of a fan I am. In light winds, you are constantly luffing to keep it filling, and it it faster to drop it and goosewing. In strong winds, you have to just bear away and go where it takes you, or get blown flat. Neither of these things seems like a step in the right direction for sailing.
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Originally posted by Rupert

The more I sail assy spinnakered boats, the less of a fan I am. In light winds, you are constantly luffing to keep it filling, and it it faster to drop it and goosewing. In strong winds, you have to just bear away and go where it takes you, or get blown flat. Neither of these things seems like a step in the right direction for sailing.



On boats that use one purely for convenience of fashion that may be true, but Not if the whole boat is proportioned properly (weight, beam, sail area etc). I'm no apologist for asymmetrics as you know, but some boats do benefit from them - but many boats are not designed so much as drawn.
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I love mine on my Musto - provided i am not trying to sail a round the cans course, but going down wind is so entertaining that i am fast becoming a fan of W/L
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Luddites .... we are then......

It is just we are still selling useful numbers of new boats to people actually paying their 'hard earned' for in difficult times.  Used Blaze prices are also very solid and more important they sell very readily indeed.   Come on Greame just say the customers are 'wrong' one more time ..  surely a rather unconventional basis for strategy ?!.  We had just had our best first half year sales for several and still have modest Blaze backlog orders going into the Autumn.

We do not target (usually) well occupied niches ... well not at our size and on our own anyway.  The D1 / 100 area was one we were very interested in hence the spinnaker trials way back but was quickly dropped as our brand strength and financial clout was not the equal of RS ....  or Devoti.   I'd have liked to have continued of course but common sense did cut in ....  I'm very very happy with the direction we took (maybe had to take) and Devoti are already building their second batch of Icons now.  Do not be too surprised if the Blaze is also distributed by them in geographic markets we cannot serve ... UK build ones at that. 

All this has allowed us to start development work on another new design ... we'll take our time on this one as well but it will again (we hope) be rather special and that bit different again.   Will it have 'extra' sails ? ... we might just keep you guessing.   Yes you are right this might be the very first forum 'teaser' on this one Greame ...... 

By all means ply me with beer or Brandy & Babycham at Broxbourne on the weekend - but any details revealed under duress (or more likely the influence of the above) is liable to gross exaggeration, flat denial later or to be intentionally misleading ! Wink

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What about a slightly smaller main with a self tacking jib? This would give you the balance upwind, reaching speed across the wind, the ability to run dead with the jib goosewinged. Then when the angles suited, you could pop a slightly smaller/flatter kite which would give you that turbo boost when reaching or running somwhere that you could stretch your legs a little.
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Before embarking on roguish activities, I made an enquiry for a K1- with a kite mod.

I was bowled over by the lack of response and after chasing twice, took a consumerist approach and figured they weren't interested in either a) making a value added sale or b) diluting their brand

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Originally posted by Peaky

If you want a single sail singlehander, you need the Nemesis!

Originally posted by blaze720

All this has allowed us to start development work on another new design ... we'll take our time on this one as well but it will again (we hope) be rather special and that bit different again.   Will it have 'extra' sails ? ... we might just keep you guessing.   Yes you are right this might be the very first forum 'teaser' on this one Greame ......  

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Sorry, back to school for you Jimbo.
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