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    Posted: 02 Oct 12 at 9:35am
Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Seasick Steve

Is GRP better than FRP?

The terms don't get used as consistently as one might like. Basically you probably want a fairly recent foam sandwich boat. The older ones made from just solid glass were, shall we say, not brilliant.

Yep- thanks for the clarity Jim.

But this will also be reflected in the price, the older glass boats are around £500-£800, and as a cheap boat they're usually fine, but not going to be on pace with the newer boats as you'd expect.

If looking at the Solo Association classifieds, I'd look at the following adverts for £4-5k:
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What's the name of that disease?

The one you catch and cannot help yourself in an irrational desire to affect as many others in the mistaken thought you will either be cured, or by affecting others the disease will somehow not seem so disgusting to the rest of society?
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lol... ah I get it, your just jealous Graeme, 'big fleets' was your baby back in the day.  You should get one regardless of the prejudice, come to the Hayling Nationals next year.  

They're expecting over 100 boats, I wonder if your old buddy Roger Tush will be there?  

There's even a prize for guys in your age group, but the competition for it will be fierce... you wouldn't stand a chance.... you know, with no excuses to hide behind.  

I tell you what, I'm unlikely to be able to take a full week off work for it, but I might tack on one of the weekends and just enjoy a few races in a fleet that big.  I don't think I've sailed in 100 boats on the same line since I was 14 years old, I can't miss that, especially at Hayling.    

You can use my boat for the rest of the week... up for it?
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Here you go Graeme...
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

lol... ah I get it, your just jealous Graeme, 'big fleets' was your baby back in the day.  You should get one regardless of the prejudice, come to the Hayling Nationals next year.  

They're expecting over 100 boats, I wonder if your old buddy Roger Tush will be there?  

There's even a prize for guys in your age group, but the competition for it will be fierce... you wouldn't stand a chance.... you know, with no excuses to hide behind.  

I tell you what, I'm unlikely to be able to take a full week off work for it, but I might tack on one of the weekends and just enjoy a few races in a fleet that big.  I don't think I've sailed in 100 boats on the same line since I was 14 years old, I can't miss that, especially at Hayling.    

You can use my boat for the rest of the week... up for it?
 
Perhaps we could do a deal James - half the entry each.
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More than happy to Steve if Graeme wimps out  LOL  
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Thanks for all your help with this matter, really like the look of the Solos in my price range,
Are winder boats highly regarded? and are solos with a mixture of FRP Hull and wooden deck easily available, as I love the look of the wood but dont want all the hassle!
 
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Big Fleets? 500 is a big fleet, finishing 5 minutes clear of the next man is a fine victory, everyone loves you, they want to be your friend, buy you beer, put your name on their shoes, your word is gospel... 
It's a shallow existence, been there, done it, got the T shirt, no thanks, mucking about at the back in something you actually like sailing is much more fun and everyone sailing the same boat is boring.

The day I sit in a Solo seriously? It'll be off to Switzerland one way, the very next day.

There is no amount of money or promise of big fleet glory or company, that would condemn me to the total humiliation and acceptance that my self esteem is that compromised..

Or I'm that old.  Confused

I feel sorry for you, no really I actually do. I wish I could help, but it's too late, you're sick and not in a 'bro' way...
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Well I'm buying a winder based on trusted feedback and the quality I've seen in their other work- mainly fireballs... does that help, erm not, it's an internet forum and all I can do is share what I've been told by folks with a lot more time in the boats than me.

FRP with wood decks - often called Composite - and yes available in your price bracket.

Possibly worth asking on the Solo forum for more specific information or placing a wanted ad.
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Oh dear Graeme- fail on so many levels.

I'm not deluded enough to think I'd be anywhere but the back of the pack... but the solo isn't just for the 120 odd boats at the nationals, it's for the 10 boats at the pond- week in, week out a proper race against some folks better than me, and probably someone worse. Age is irrelevant, what I learn and how I progress is. As is the light hearted spirit of competition- something that doesn't exist in 'cool boats' around here. You simply don't get that when you're so out of touch of the faster boats, and miles ahead of the slow one, who ultimate wins the 'race' not because he or she sailed well, but because the boat's daubed with the word bandit.

Enjoy your handicap racing if that's what you like, but I've owned enough cooler boats to know that handicap racing them is dull- you're better off just free riding and blasting about without the restriction of a course, and frankly I can do that cheaper and quicker on my boards these days.

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