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    Posted: 13 Sep 12 at 3:16pm
why shouldn't a boat be tricky to sail in 20knots?
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 A good 12 (i.e stiff, down to weight hull with modern rig) is much more rewarding and exciting to sail than a 200, kite or no kite... but there is more to learn and it is arguably harder to sail at the same time.

But either way the deciding factor for me would the class that offered me the best sailing/racing be that at my club or if I was planing on travelling, the classes open circuit in my location... in other words nothing to do with the boat itself.

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The RS500 is an interesting option but looking at the race reults there are none racing at Chew.  There are few800's about!
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Ben, at Chew there are 3 or 4 200s, 2 or 3 800s and 2 or 3 Scorpions out regularly, as well as lots of other single boats in the managerie. The big fleet is Flying Fifteens. No 500s.
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Peaky - been looking at chews race results and it seems like there are a few fireballs out regularly too.

How tricky are fireballs to sail?  We'd be light (8 stone on the wire and 10.5 at the helm) but they look like a lot of fun and we could get an old boat to start which looks like cheap sailing...


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Fireballs are great boats, especially the Winder variants (the fleet is almost one-design now) but I sold mine when I lost my 11.5 stone 6' crew.  

With an 8.5-9 stone crew I definitely felt we lacked righting moment - nice in a F3, but we were slow upwind in F4+  Would have been better if we could have swapped (- like you, I'm 10.5 stone)
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Fireballs are certainly an option, I taught my other half to sail in one and after a couple years we swopped ends to put the weight in the right place - she's 5'6" & 52kg and I'm 6'1" & 88kg. When she crewed, going up wind in anything over F3 we were off the pace when racing against bigger crews. However, the other way round we used to fly.

If you go that route, make sure you go for a big bow (Winder) 'ball, the old skinny bow 'balls aren't as competitive, especially if you're sailing on the sea.
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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Fireballs are great boats, especially the Winder variants (the fleet is almost one-design now)

Funny, I thought it always was a one design. I certainly never heard of anyone other than Peter Milne getting the designer's royalty.
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There's a couple at Chew, but not often out at he same time. Might be more often over the winter though.
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Originally posted by JimC

 Funny, I thought it always was a one design. I certainly never heard of anyone other than Peter Milne getting the designer's royalty.

You're quite right, Fireball has always been known as a 'one design' class; I thought it was 'restricted' (like the Albacore) - certainly in the past there was a great variety of builders, masts, sheeting systems and fittings.

But as a charitable reader might have assumed, I meant 'single manufacturer one-design', though the odd wooden boat or Delange has been seen at opens in recent years.
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