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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Funny, I thought it always was a one design. I certainly never heard of anyone other than Peter Milne getting the designer's royalty. |
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dogslife ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 17 Feb 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 58 |
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Fireballs are certainly an option, I taught my other half to sail in one and after a couple years we swopped ends to put the weight in the right place - she's 5'6" & 52kg and I'm 6'1" & 88kg. When she crewed, going up wind in anything over F3 we were off the pace when racing against bigger crews. However, the other way round we used to fly.
If you go that route, make sure you go for a big bow (Winder) 'ball, the old skinny bow 'balls aren't as competitive, especially if you're sailing on the sea.
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Fireballs are great boats, especially the Winder variants (the fleet is almost one-design now) but I sold mine when I lost my 11.5 stone 6' crew.
With an 8.5-9 stone crew I definitely felt we lacked righting moment - nice in a F3, but we were slow upwind in F4+ Would have been better if we could have swapped (- like you, I'm 10.5 stone)
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ben_a ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 12 Location: Bristol Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
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Peaky - been looking at chews race results and it seems like there are a few fireballs out regularly too.
How tricky are fireballs to sail? We'd be light (8 stone on the wire and 10.5 at the helm) but they look like a lot of fun and we could get an old boat to start which looks like cheap sailing... Edited by ben_a - 15 Sep 12 at 6:28pm |
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Ben, at Chew there are 3 or 4 200s, 2 or 3 800s and 2 or 3 Scorpions out regularly, as well as lots of other single boats in the managerie. The big fleet is Flying Fifteens. No 500s.
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ben_a ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 12 Location: Bristol Online Status: Offline Posts: 19 |
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The RS500 is an interesting option but looking at the race reults there are none racing at Chew. There are few800's about!
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ifoxwell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 06 Location: Hoo Online Status: Offline Posts: 669 |
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A good 12 (i.e stiff, down to weight hull with modern rig) is much more rewarding and exciting to sail than a 200, kite or no kite... but there is more to learn and it is arguably harder to sail at the same time.
But either way the deciding factor for me would the class that offered me the best sailing/racing be that at my club or if I was planing on travelling, the classes open circuit in my location... in other words nothing to do with the boat itself. Ian
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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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why shouldn't a boat be tricky to sail in 20knots?
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Oatsandbeans ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 19 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 382 |
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RS do have the tendency to pile sail area onto their boats that can make them tricky to sail (for mere mortals) in winds above 20 knots. The 500 isn't too bad in this respect and if you have the small rig ( same as big rig but with no roach on main) it really is quite manageable in a breeze. The spinnaker is the same, but that means that you go faster offwind, and they say that the faster these boats go the more stable they become - so no problem at all there then!
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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interesting advice from 2005.... definitely more bias towards the N12, now it seems that there's more of an even split in opinion.
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