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    Posted: 12 Jun 12 at 6:29pm
Also, if it's light, and/or flat, keep the tiller centred, adjusting the heel and sheet to steer
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Don't worry, my outhaul is longer than my downhaul aswell, what I do is make a handle out of the outhaul and loop it aswell as handles, should be about the correct length..
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Originally posted by jeffers

Definitely! The outhaul should never be that far back (IMO). I have mine set so that max depth has the handle up against the cleat so I know that I can just uncleat it if required and it will g to that setting. from there to min depth leaves me about 9-12 inches of 'tail' at the most (probably less than that).

Running in light winds....get the boat heeled over to the center of effort of the mainsail it over the center of resistance of the boat so the max effort goes in to moving the boat forward. Then get as far forward as you can to reduce the wetted area of the hull. it is a balancing act, be prepared to fall in whilst you practice. As long as there are no waves then keep as still as you can. if there are waves then others will need to comment as I am pond sailor.


Thanks for the help - I'm never sure whether to stay stock still or move like an idiot round the boat! As for waves: I've pretty much mastered upturns and downturns - I've managed to pull away from faster boats on windier downwind legs. So, I shall have a fiddle with my outhaul :D Thanks again
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Sounds like a few ropes are the wrong length - It was my outhaul getting stuck in the ratchet the other day. Seems like I will have to spend a while tweaking!

Oh, and I have yet another question - What is the best thing to do in light winds? The other day in a force two I seemed to be going backwards when running - Should I be making more movement, or less? Thanks ;)

Definitely! The outhaul should never be that far back (IMO). I have mine set so that max depth has the handle up against the cleat so I know that I can just uncleat it if required and it will g to that setting. from there to min depth leaves me about 9-12 inches of 'tail' at the most (probably less than that).

Running in light winds....get the boat heeled over to the center of effort of the mainsail it over the center of resistance of the boat so the max effort goes in to moving the boat forward. Then get as far forward as you can to reduce the wetted area of the hull. it is a balancing act, be prepared to fall in whilst you practice. As long as there are no waves then keep as still as you can. if there are waves then others will need to comment as I am pond sailor.
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Originally posted by jeffers

Originally posted by fab100

Keep the cunno all one side of the boom (mine is to sbd) and outhaul the other. I don't have this problem at all, I have to say.

Sounds like the primary outhaul line needs to be a bit longer - there should be more than enough travel in the secondary line for the block to always be mast-side of the clew strap

Good advice here and make sure you tie your handles as close to the cleats as possible and use up all the spare rope so as to minimise the 'tails' from each control line as you adjust it. 

If you switch between a 4.7 and a radial then it is permissable to have a rope tail tied to the clew eye for use as an attachment to your 'hook' on your outhaul (specifically to make is easier to switch between the rigs).

Same with the cunnigham. I always found that a 'cascade' style cunningham always hade for a very long 'tail' which has a habit of going through the mainsheet block when you sheet in hand over hand when rounding up. To avoid this you can switch to an alternative arrangement which has a similar amount of purchase but the tail is shorter (PM me and I can get you some pictures).

That and tying the kicker 'tail' to the front of the daggerboard will also help.

Then once you are settled on a leg use your front hand to make sure the lines are untangled. Nothing worse then frantically trying to untangle the knitting as you approach a mark!


Sounds like a few ropes are the wrong length - It was my outhaul getting stuck in the ratchet the other day. Seems like I will have to spend a while tweaking!

Oh, and I have yet another question - What is the best thing to do in light winds? The other day in a force two I seemed to be going backwards when running - Should I be making more movement, or less? Thanks ;)
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Originally posted by Buzz

Another way to get the kinks out of a mainsheet is to tow it behind the boat for a while.

Much easier to run it out on shore before you get on the water though, then dead end it at the mainsheet block, this helps to prevent twists and kinks.
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Originally posted by fab100

Keep the cunno all one side of the boom (mine is to sbd) and outhaul the other. I don't have this problem at all, I have to say.

Sounds like the primary outhaul line needs to be a bit longer - there should be more than enough travel in the secondary line for the block to always be mast-side of the clew strap

Good advice here and make sure you tie your handles as close to the cleats as possible and use up all the spare rope so as to minimise the 'tails' from each control line as you adjust it. 

If you switch between a 4.7 and a radial then it is permissable to have a rope tail tied to the clew eye for use as an attachment to your 'hook' on your outhaul (specifically to make is easier to switch between the rigs).

Same with the cunnigham. I always found that a 'cascade' style cunningham always hade for a very long 'tail' which has a habit of going through the mainsheet block when you sheet in hand over hand when rounding up. To avoid this you can switch to an alternative arrangement which has a similar amount of purchase but the tail is shorter (PM me and i can get you some pictures).

That and tying the kicker 'tail' to the front of the daggerboard will also help.

Then once you are settled on a leg use your front hand to make sure the lines are untangled. Nothing worse then frantically trying to untangle the knitting as you approach a mark!
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Another way to get the kinks out of a mainsheet is to tow it behind the boat for a while.
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I will dig out some pics of my old boat if i can find them, shows everything very clearly and some interesting tweaks that make the boat much easier to rig particularly when changing between the 4.7 and radial because of the change of length in the foot.  

As for leading the cunningham down one side of the boom, yeah it can help but only really on the the standard rig where you can sometimes run out of travel with an old sail in very heavy winds. I did rig the cunningham round the front of the mast for a while but it takes quite a lot of setting up to get it right, works brilliantly when it is set up though!
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Keep the cunno all one side of the boom (mine is to sbd) and outhaul the other. I don't have this problem at all, I have to say.

Sounds like the primary outhaul line needs to be a bit longer - there should be more than enough travel in the secondary line for the block to always be mast-side of the clew strap
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