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    Posted: 18 Apr 12 at 11:32am
£500 probably find an Albacore or a Classic Merlin? Bit more in the budget i'd say the RS200 is bandit handicap boat (see Weston Grand Slam results)
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Originally posted by getafix

FWIW spend your £500 on some nice food, some nice cheese and some decent wine, find a not-so-nice-if-you-ask-right partner to share it with you and see where that goes.... you ain't gonna get much worth racing for £500


Ha ha, find a "not so nice if you ask right" partner and you will never have any money to spend on sailing
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or maybe talk to sailing clubs to see if they are selling off (letting go) any boats abandoned in the boat park where subs are unpaid etc - saw a 49er in this state recently

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FWIW spend your £500 on some nice food, some nice cheese and some decent wine, find a not-so-nice-if-you-ask-right partner to share it with you and see where that goes.... you ain't gonna get much worth racing for £500
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for £500... I'd probably recommend an old Mirror as the renovation costs are going to be limited.

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I paid £1100 for my Laser some 4 years ago now. I spent a little extra getting an 8.1 rig for it (for our Wednesday evening series which is always light winds).

Is it the best handicap boat for my local club - no. Is it the best handicap boat for me - probably not. Does it get me out on the water for some competitive racing - most definitely yes and I can switch between 8.1 for handicap racing and the standard rig for fleet racing.

How much have I spent on the boat since....very little aside from a few bits of rope.

Would I have been better of buying a £500 shed of a Laser and pimping it.....no it would have cost me the same/more.

You need to balance what sort of sailing you are going to do the most and what you want out of your sailing. Not forgetting what you are likely to achieve. 

I would love to go and do the entire sailjuice series but I simply don't have the time so I concentrate on what is going to give me my competitive 'fix' and also the most enjoyment.

IMO what are are asking for at the moment is a little unrealistic given your budget.
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Originally posted by winging it

I just love this delusion that a restoration project is a cheap way into getting a boat.  It so isn't. 


An example... I was looking at a vintage Moth the other week. The hull was in astonishingly good condition for its age and needed no work at all beyond cleaning.

I then priced things up to get her in what I consider reasonable club racing order...

New cover £250
replacement second hand mast - maybe £100
new standing rigging - £100
ball bearing blocks, decent rope, new cam cleats, ratchet block - £200-300
trolley refurbishment £75
new sail - £750

So nearly £1500 on a purchase price of around 300 quid, so its getting close to a £2,000 boat. And then after say a season of use you could sell her for maybe £400...
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Racing on a budget is a complex subject. By the time you include sails, insurance, dinghy park, covers, fuel and accomodation for any events, depreciation on a mid fleet boat pales into insignificance. But people can and do enjoy cheap racing. 
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For £500 you should get something that floats in most classes, but look out for something where the sails are still OK, or you can easily spend more than the boat cost getting a new set.

Before buying an old example of a development class (a National 12 might suit you well, for instance) make sure your club is willing to set a handicap which reflects your boat, not the 30 years + of development that has hapened since.
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Winging it is so right there - A cheap boat is the most expensive type. I was offered 2 wayfarers, a phantom and a 420 the other day for £50.... I had a quick look and realised I wasn't rich enough to get that lot sailable or even saleable.....
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