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    Posted: 06 Feb 12 at 12:36pm
Originally posted by Mark Jardine

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Some years ago a french superstar yachracer died when he fell overboard from his boat without a lifejacket - can't remember his name.  Sailing, class 101; always wear your personal buoyancy.  I rest my case.


I think you might be referring to Eric Tabarly - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Tabarly
Yes, the memory's going, it must be an age thing!  It was Eric Tabarly I was thinking of, thanks.
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We can all get caught out - no matter how well you prepare.  Really glad noone was hurt - tks to the RNLI.
 
My question really is what the moth sailor reckons he'd do differently....that's
going to be different for each class, and is probably important info for the "mothies".
 
We got dismasted about 6 yrs ago in 30kts.  We were about 3 miles off the coast.  The boat was totally un-paddlable, as the rig needed to be cut away before we could be towed in.
Our learning was that we now carry a rigging "unfriendly" knife inside the boat for such eventualities.
 
In 2006, our training group were prepping for the Hayling Worlds - training halfway to Bembridge, in a 20 knot Northerly (January) when a snow storm blanked out Hayling Island...!!  Going home, upwind through the snow we laughed that we wouldn't have liked to be in anything less seaworthy than the 505. 
 
Again, learning is that we'd never go off the coast without another boat who can go and get help, and we take a warm drink out when sailing offshore - buy ourselves an extra hour or two.
 
Let's not judge the sailor.  The important thing is to know what he thinks he should do differently next time.  no blame here, merely thanks for the RNLI.
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Originally posted by CharlieW505

We can all get caught out - no matter how well you prepare.  Really glad noone was hurt - tks to the RNLI.
 
My question really is what the moth sailor reckons he'd do differently....that's
going to be different for each class, and is probably important info for the "mothies".
 
We got dismasted about 6 yrs ago in 30kts.  We were about 3 miles off the coast.  The boat was totally un-paddlable, as the rig needed to be cut away before we could be towed in.
Our learning was that we now carry a rigging "unfriendly" knife inside the boat for such eventualities.
 
In 2006, our training group were prepping for the Hayling Worlds - training halfway to Bembridge, in a 20 knot Northerly (January) when a snow storm blanked out Hayling Island...!!  Going home, upwind through the snow we laughed that we wouldn't have liked to be in anything less seaworthy than the 505. 
 
Again, learning is that we'd never go off the coast without another boat who can go and get help, and we take a warm drink out when sailing offshore - buy ourselves an extra hour or two.
 
Let's not judge the sailor.  The important thing is to know what he thinks he should do differently next time.  no blame here, merely thanks for the RNLI.
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4 states of man:
Risk ignorant
Risk cavalier
Risk averse
Risk sensible

Sometimes it takes a personal or third party experience to make us realise where we lie.

To some this seems risk cavalier, to others risk ignorant.

The response of some has a risk averse tone.

For me let's just take the lessons and become more risk sensible.
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Originally posted by sargesail

4 states of man:
Risk ignorant
Risk cavalier
Risk averse
Risk sensible

Sometimes it takes a personal or third party experience to make us realise where we lie.

To some this seems risk cavalier, to others risk ignorant.

The response of some has a risk averse tone.

For me let's just take the lessons and become more risk sensible.
 
Quite ... however it seems that those in the ignorant & cavalier categories usually view those who are sensible as averse ...
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