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    Posted: 03 Feb 12 at 8:25am
Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by bustinben

There is no way, no way at all, that the yacht could have been "in the right".

I don't know I'd want to be quite as dogmatic as that. Supposing, for instance, a ship was outside the navigation channel? Doesn't the exclusion zone only apply in the shipping channel? Or supposing a boat had been instructed a ship was turning in one direction, and took a course under the direct instruction of the harbour authorities to avoid its planned course, and the ship then turned in the other direction?

As I said, it's all gone quiet. A few people who I think have real information are being very quiet. But rumour is that Jim is about right. Like many people sailing around here, I am well aware of the Byelaws, most of us could probably do a fair job of reciting them.
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Originally posted by bustinben

There is no way, no way at all, that the yacht could have been "in the right".

I don't know I'd want to be quite as dogmatic as that. Supposing, for instance, a ship was outside the navigation channel? Doesn't the exclusion zone only apply in the shipping channel? Or supposing a boat had been instructed a ship was turning in one direction, and took a course under the direct instruction of the harbour authorities to avoid its planned course, and the ship then turned in the other direction?


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Originally posted by RS400atC

Originally posted by r2d2

what happend to the guy who sailed his yacht into that big red ship near cowes last year - was he fined or executed etc?


It's gone very quiet.
Word locally was that the yacht was actually in the right.
Video can be very deceptive!

The local word is complete rubbish then.  There are specific by-laws in the solent covering a moving exclusion zone around large vessels. There is no way, no way at all, that the yacht could have been "in the right".
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Originally posted by aardvark_issues

Originally posted by seamonkey


The first rule is that to win you have to finish.
 


These are the second and third rules:

Simplify, then add lightness
If it breaks it's too light, if it doesn't it's too heavy


I guess development classes get driven down this route in the search for marginal gains where as other classes are restricted and as such don't perhaps take such risks with kit
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Originally posted by aardvark_issues


These are the second and third rules

And if you finish last then there wasn't really much point in finishing at all.
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Originally posted by furtive

From his facebook wall (not hard to find), it appears that he had intended to be out with another Lymington moth sailor (and occassional poster here), but for whatever reason that scenario didn't pan out. Also some details of his kit failure, and acknowledgement that not having a phone/VHF was an error.
 
GRP is going to get very excited about his profile picture ...
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Originally posted by seamonkey


The first rule is that to win you have to finish.
 


These are the second and third rules:

Simplify, then add lightness
If it breaks it's too light, if it doesn't it's too heavy
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From his facebook wall (not hard to find), it appears that he had intended to be out with another Lymington moth sailor (and occassional poster here), but for whatever reason that scenario didn't pan out. Also some details of his kit failure, and acknowledgement that not having a phone/VHF was an error.
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If it breaks it wasn't strong enough, if it doesn't break, it is too heavy... most extreme boats are looking to be between these two points, so are hardly going to pass the Lloyds scantlings recommendations, are they?
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.., and you expect things to break on racing craft. 

 
Do you? ... I don't.

I think if you are going out sailing on your own, particularly at this time of year it's a good idea to plan on the assumption it's something that may happen.
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