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    Posted: 01 Sep 11 at 3:27pm
I may turn up for this one weather dependant in a contender, needs to be a reasonable breeze to get round in good time.

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Originally posted by hollandsd

I may turn up for this one weather dependant in a contender, needs to be a reasonable breeze to get round in good time.

Dan


Would you get round any faster if it was epoxy!... apart from the fact you might not afford one.
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Originally posted by oldarn

Originally posted by hollandsd

I may turn up for this one weather dependant in a contender, needs to be a reasonable breeze to get round in good time.

Dan


Would you get round any faster if it was epoxy!... apart from the fact you might not afford one.



Haha, I dont think at this stage in the game that the build material will make any difference to my performance, my boat is 20yr old and a little overweight but at my level I dont think that makes any difference at all.
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That went... badly. About half an hour in, hanging on to the back of the fast handicap pack despite it being a down wind leg and them mainly be 5o5s, Ospreys and Merlins, we were going along just outside the pair of Halos and a Dart when all of a sudden there was a lot of shouting about "shallow" from nearby boats, Toby lunged to pull the dagger-rudder up a bit but was too late- snapped gudgeon. We turned around, and headed back to the club rudderless. Glad it didn't happen further round the course!
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Originally posted by alstorer

That went... badly. About half an hour in, hanging on to the back of the fast handicap pack despite it being a down wind leg and them mainly be 5o5s, Ospreys and Merlins, we were going along just outside the pair of Halos and a Dart when all of a sudden there was a lot of shouting about "shallow" from nearby boats, Toby lunged to pull the dagger-rudder up a bit but was too late- snapped gudgeon. We turned around, and headed back to the club rudderless. Glad it didn't happen further round the course!


Sorry to hear that.
So many UK sailing venues really need rudders and centreboards that will survive hitting the bottom. It's sort of ironic, the faster the boat, more likely to have a daggerboard and cassette rudder, more able to do damage by grounding.

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  that's because the faster the boat, the more the preciseness of the dagger rudder and the not-moving-back-when-you-pull-it-up-a-little-ness of the daggerboard become essential. But I'm not sure the Icon needs a dagger rudder, and after today, I think Peaky's thinking the same thing!  

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It was actually the gudgeon on the cast aluminium stock that sheared. It was the only part of the boat that isn't Icon 'fit' - as part of the development process I was using the rudder and stock straight from the NS.

I had vison of the transom hanging off, but no damage was done to the boat, I just need to fix/replace the stock.

Up until that point, things were going very well. The club was very friendly and well organised and the race is great.

We had a downwind start, so we goosewinged whilst the other fast handicap boats flew their kites. It then became more of a reach, but after half an hour we were ahead of the 400s and Canoes, and clinging on the tails of the Ospreys, 5ohs and Merlins. Then it went pear shaped and we had to beat back in without the rudder, which was also quite fun in a strange way.

Anyhow, thanks for making the effort Al, hopefully next time it'll go better!



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Sorry to hear about the grounding Al and Peaky, it was remarkably shallow this year.
 
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Icon Rudder .....

Peaky was very unlucky with his NS one but the Icon production boats will/do have have 'regular' swing back ones.  '04' was doing well by the sounds of it if they were holding the 400's etc on an otherwise spinnaker leg, and would have simply flown up the Swale on that very long fetch.  If we'd have known how low the tide was going to be this year Cirrus could have lent him a standard one for the day.

Never mind - plenty of other events coming up and there is always next time !!.

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Well done mike, you did well, am sorry I missed this I really wanted to try the new boat out and it sounds like the conditions would have suited a first outing just fine. Sorry to read about the grounding and good to hear future Icons will have the common sense expediency of a flip up rudder. How often have I bemoaned the stupidity of fixed anything especially for Coastal sailing and that island is renown for groundings.
Also interesting to see how well the Alto fared, they're lucky my crew whimper out because of the promised light wind, we'd have run them a close race, which would have been fun.
I'm gutted I missed it, sulked all day and now suffering a thorough IKEA'ing as penance for the saturday pass I'd negotiated for the event, so a double whammy. I'm so going to shout at those buggers on Monday for not getting the V twin ready in time.
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