V Twin

   Congrats Graeme.
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I'm sure it is just the beginning of the interesting part of the project.
So now it's get the rig right. Balance and controlability are everything

Mike

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oldarn Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 10 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 440	Post Options Post Reply Quote oldarn Report Post Quote Reply Topic: V Twin Posted: 13 Aug 11 at 8:38am
	Congrats Graeme. . I'm sure it is just the beginning of the interesting part of the project. So now it's get the rig right. Balance and controlability are everything Mike
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Ruscoe Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1514	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ruscoe Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 11 at 8:19am
	Really interesting greame, shame about the primer making it super slippy. What's the next steps? to et the board and rig positioning right so the boat feels balanced?


dopamine Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 26 Oct 06 Location: Burkina Faso Online Status: Offline Posts: 68	Post Options Post Reply Quote dopamine Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 11 at 8:13am
	Not sure that GRF has a "policy" of irritating. I'm sure he does it quite naturally without even trying! Anyway, bloody interesting stuff and a great effort, although it looks like you may have created something even more difficult to get back into than an RS100?

tickel Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 21 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 408	Post Options Post Reply Quote tickel Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 11 at 8:04am
	Well that is all very interesting, you have my congratulations. What a shame that you have a policy of putting peoples backs up as it tends to thwart sensible discussion when it is needed.
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Bootscooter Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 15 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1094	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bootscooter Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 11 at 11:50pm
	I've not replied to any of your threads on this so far but I've been reading everything with interest and admiration, regaedless of the outcome. Sounds to me that for a 1st sail you've achieved all and more than you could have expected, and that tweaking will only improve things. Well done chap!

G.R.F. Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028	Post Options Post Reply Quote G.R.F. Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 11 at 11:31pm
	Well after the day of absolute hell and distraction we finally got it launched about 5 this evening after a total catalogue of glitches and minor irritations right up to an including the moment we tried to hitch the trailer only to find it was locked and no-one knew where the key was. I've got a bit of iPhone footage which doesn't show much as by the time it got going it was too far out, then just as he was about to overtake this ferry a couple of the 'calshot rangers' who'd gathered along with a small crowd from the local cat club to admire what they thought looked a very fast and interesting craft, only to tell me I had to pay to launch and could I move my car. By the time i'd complied to go take a look, he'd vanished, then some female fish murderer came hurrying past me saying she needed to get the lifeboat launched, cos a boat had just suddenly flipped over and couldn't get back up again. 'Hang on said I it's an experimental boat he may be deliberately capsizing it as part of his tests. No she said it was sailing along then flipped over, by this time I could just make out the upturned hull, totally turtled and my heart sank, how the hell could that happen, I'm the designer of the titanic at this point, it's impossible to turn over that boat how the hell has he done it, why can't he get it back up again, at which point a passing rib assisted, but still it didn't seem to want to come back up the right way. I'm beginning to get that sinking feeling.. Another long story cut short, he gets back to shore, with a big grin, I'm all 'wtf?', he's 'it's like a skating rink,' being painted in just undercoat, he'd gone forward to sort out a spinnaker glitch, slipped arse over tit, grabbed the stay and flipped the boat as he went over the side and he can't stand on anything without slipping off, so impossible to right and the wings weren't helping in the 6 knot tide. Anyway, as for the sailing quality prior to that, he's sailed much worse first time out, it's out of balance, massive lee helm, the wings have too much windage, but he didnt touch down sailing so they're clear enough, getting back was tricky the foils not really working (It looked a bit slow from the shore on its upwind leg returning after the capsize test.)with all that reverse rudder. The rig was a bit too vertical down to a technical hitch with one of the splices on the jib hoist, so it needs the rig raking aft a bit and maybe the centreboard going forward a notch (we have four positions it was set in No 2) To me it looked underpowered, it was quite breezy, but then as he said, I couldn't even get on the racks because it kept trying to bear away, ad I probably couldn't even if it had been balanced because of the sloppy deck. So all in all, not an instant success, but then we knew that wouldn't be the case, but not a total disaster either. It sat well on the water, even with his 96 kilos on it. the stern wash was clean, the nose wasn't slamming, it glided quite well through the water, he did get a hull clear for a while, and he did get the feel of what would be to come once the power was balanced. So although I'm mildly disappointed I didn't get instant success from the rig we cobbled together, it would have been a miracle had that happened, so still lots to do. Not sure how to get my iPhone footage up, but I'll try the blog first and post a link.
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Xpletive Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 28 Jan 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 320	Post Options Post Reply Quote Xpletive Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 11 at 10:06pm
	I'd like to suggest that the first outing for this creation has to be the Bognor Birdman Edited by Xpletive - 23 Aug 11 at 4:08pm

haroosh Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 14 Jan 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 521	Post Options Post Reply Quote haroosh Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 11 at 3:30pm
	mmm its friday afternoon. I wonder if the fun boat floats?? When does the launch party hit you tube?
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rogue Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 04 Dec 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 978	Post Options Post Reply Quote rogue Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 11 at 1:23pm
	Hi Jack, Mate- no hard feelings from me to you at all!!! No I didn't try the foam under the wings option, I'd given up with it by then due to time constraints as the windsurfing just seemed so much simpler to get TOW... it's quite liberating to rock up only armed with a screw driver rather than an entire tool box every time you go sailing. Having spent a couple of hundred quid converting it to maintain a three sail option, I didn't have the heart or desire to f**k around with moving the mast to the forward mount- the rigging would all need adjusting and that's too much time. So with little impetus to face the complexities of getting the Rogue Skiff on the water every time I could spare a few hours, I soon found it was sitting there doing nothing whilst I took the board out instead. I hadn't expected it to sell very quickly, but cherub values have effectively crashed, there's loads of boats on the market for next to nothing, so it was case of move it on or get stuck with it. Better it's with someone who'll use it, rather than rotting in a dinghy park costing £x000 per year in depreciation and insurance. I just hope GRF's new toy doesn't cost him time off the water tinkering, frustrated and spending more cash to fix and upgrade this or that. Time is a commodity that can't be bought or sold... having your head stuck in a dinghy ashore bimbling and fannying around while everyone else is enjoying being on the water is something I don't think either of us relish the thought of. Edited by rogue - 12 Aug 11 at 1:31pm

Jack Sparrow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jack Sparrow Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 12 Aug 11 at 12:46pm
	a few pics of the Banshee and my then 12 year old
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