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tickel ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 408 |
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Lightning 1152 and the new John Claridge boats are lovely and modern on Mylar.
Byte C2 1140. Choose Byte for a blow and lightning when it is light. |
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Ruscoe ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1514 |
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so is a lightning really faster then a modern solo? I would be really interested to find out? I should imagine he C2 is a little flyer in a breeze.
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tickel ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 408 |
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Remember Russ that the Lightning is 12' but carries as much sail as a full rig laser, but lower. In light winds it will out perform a Radial but as the wind increases the extra length of the Laser begins to tell and it will pull away. In a real blow the Lightning begins to get awkward. Those who sail Lightnings against Solos complain about the advantageous PY of the modern Solo. Byte C2 is fantastic in wind and the really good jockeys can turn them into windsurfers.
I am not a member of the 'anti laser society' but I am a member of the 'look at the alternatives society'. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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The Lightning handicap certainly seems more realistic than the Solo one - I race against a couple of well sailed Solos (neither new, but both to a modern shape and well looked after) and I do find that in a straight line in a steady wind they will pull away, especially upwind. They aren't too different, though. A 30 year old Lightning will probebly be faster (and far cheaper) than a 30 year old Solo, and seems to need a little less "grunt".
Sorry I wasn't a Combs, Tickel, I was sailing the Minisail at a cvrda event at Clywedog. That was fun, too.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Ruscoe ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1514 |
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Cheers guys, i had never really thought about the Py of a lightning until i noticed it was so close to the Solo. But i do remember thinking they had a load of sail all those years ago. I can imagine it would be tricky to beat a modern Solo in most conditions. Good luck to the class, i really hope the resurgence continues.
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drifter ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 09 Jun 08 Location: Oxfordshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 177 |
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Both great boats, but I'd have the C2 in a drifter and the Lightning for almost all conditions. The Byte is too prone to nosediving on runs, though less wetted area on the light stuff. Still prefer the Solo though-more comfortable!
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Stargazey ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 May 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 45 |
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Have just booked my accomodation for Minnis Bay September 24/25 - looking forward to it as I bought my Byte this April and am still learning the ropes. It was blowing 25-30 knots here this weekend and I was completely out of control trying to go downhill, so hoping to get some tips off regular Byte helms. This is this first time that I have sailed a fully battened sail and must admit am loving the Byte - even if I have no real idea what I am doing
![]() My Byte is about 4-5 years old so is Topper built, so I'll be interested to see how the new Ovington boats compare.
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winging it ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958 |
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tickler, do the bytes take part in the ovi inlands at grafham?
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the same, but different...
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tickel ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 408 |
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As far as I know there is no race for Byte at the Ovi's. In fact they do not seem to take much interest in the class.
Last years Nationals were won by a 19 year old Topper hull and this years Inlands were won by the same helm in a probably 12 year old boat. Both boats belong to me but I was not sailing them. In second place on both occasions was a brand new Ovington. I will try to find out who is going to Minnis Bay. |
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