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    Posted: 18 Jul 11 at 2:58pm
That was my first thought - looks wide and probably quite heavy???
What weight and sail area are you targetting?
What mast is going on?
 
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Interesting joint tolerances around the bow!

looks pretty wide GRF - how wide is it?
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Racks in place swinging pole and centreboard case done, getting close to fit out..

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Originally posted by G.R.F.

 and I should be happy at last and not moaning all the time.
 
Somehow I doubt it... 
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Well the only area of doubt about how well it will 'work' is surrounding the foil and lack of 'end plate' effect, the guys assure me if we go big, hi aspect and deep enough it won't be an issue and at the end of the day it's a big wide platform that won't fall over. tbh it looks right now like the sailboat equivalent of a formula windsurf board.
I'm sure it''l go upwind like a train, it'll do O.K. offwind, it should go round corners without tipping me in and I can make cock ups without being punished for it. It should be wide enough to carry a big old sail and my target of being able to sail a single hander in the lower 900's without stress should have been attained.
I'm not sure I have the financial stomach for risking it any further, the next stage would be building in carbon to make it light and ironing out any 'issues' that may arise. 

The recession has cut so much deeper this year than ever it did in the past three, so chucking more cash at a project that would be very unlikely to get any uptake from what is after all a very 'tight' market would at this stage be very foolish.

So I shall probably use it as a platform for trying out rig 'experiments' whilst enjoying round the cans racing in something designed for me and my particular water, and I should be happy at last and not moaning all the time.
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This sort of reminds me of something I was reading a while back: "The Athenian trireme": the story of how a recreation of a 5th Century BC warship was made. The thing is they don't have that much data, so a lot of the design had to be done from scratch. And when it came to hull shape the dimensions - length to beam ratio and prismatic coefficient (how fat the ends are compared to the middle) - were so far from anything used today that all the available formulae, computer models and the like were essentially useless so they just had to take a guess and hope.

In the same way what you are up to here is so outside the normal range that its going to be very difficult to predict what it will do. How many variations do you reckon you'll be able to try? It would, after all, be extraordinary if something so radical could be right first time. Smart money is you'll need a couple of iterations. Its what I should have done with my rather less radical PlusPlus project: built another prototype or two, but the trouble was I'd kinda lost interest after a while... In an ideal world I'd have had a team of development sailors sailing it every day all summer I suppose.
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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Originally posted by rich96

 
3)How long is the hull ? - It looks a quite short ?
 
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3)493m.



Blimey, the pictures really don't give a good impression of scale, do they? Didn't realise you were building a record breaker!

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Originally posted by rich96

Lots of interesting ideas.
 
1)Why two kites  & poles ?
 
2)How will you get any luff tension in an inflatable jib ?
 
3)How long is the hull ? - It looks a quite short ?
 
4) It also looks like it may 'squat'/stick a bit in light winds ?
 
Well done for actually building it though - good luck.

1)Small kite for reaches, big one for downwind.

2)Don't thing it would need much luff tension if it's already rock hard from being inlfated to 10 psi like a kite surf kite leading edge.

3)493m.

4)Possibly but it has a three stage rocker to keep the rear out of the water by moving forward when it's light.

thanks I'll still need the luck, lots of other imponderables ahead, I dare say
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Lots of interesting ideas.
 
Why two kites  & poles ?
 
How will you get any luff tension in an inflatable jib ?
 
How long is the hull ? - It looks a quite short ?
 
It also looks like it may 'squat'/stick a bit in light winds ?
 
Well done for actually building it though - good luck.
 
 
 
 
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