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    Posted: 17 May 11 at 12:53pm
Surely it's time for a three man trapeze boat?
something similar to the what the rs 800 is to skiff sailing
something that u can trun up to the club a hour or so before the start pull up the main and jib put the foils in and boom your away
unlike the half day to rig a 18 footer !
surely there is a market out there that some one like rs could target
really just a cheaper, easier to sail, easier to rig, and easier to maintain 18
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Given that it's often difficult to maintain a hlem/crew partnership on two man boats, I think one of the reasons that there aren't prevalent three man boats (trap or non trap) in this country is that there's not very much demand. Aus has the likes of the 16ft Skiff, and in the US there's three man Scows (I think?) as well as various heavy three man dinghies.
If RS (for example) were being snowed under by people like yourself, I'm sure they'd consider getting one designed.
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Given how small the market is for twin-wire boats I dont see the demand to be honest. I know Jim has shown some figures in the past to back this up.

Aside from the 18ft skiff there is also the National 18 which is either a single or double trapeze 3-hander and the osprey which can be sailed 3 up. neither option seems to be particularly popular.

The fact is that if you are trying to avoid the kind of loads that make 18s so involved to set up and sail your going to be going much slower than a typical twin wire boat.
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18s dont take half a day to rig, even from the trailer
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Originally posted by Isis

National 18 which is either a single or double trapeze 3-hander and.... neither option seems to be particularly popular.



Well that depends on whether you live near Cork or not.
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Racing in 3-person boats is alive and healthy.
Keelboats that is!
One of the great things about racing a 3 person keelbaot in the evenings is that when one of you is late back from work, the other two can still sail.
 
A 3 person trap boat is a big animal needing big courses to sail on. It's going to be highly stressed and expensive. Is there really any point, outside 'Grand Prix' skiffs?
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Originally posted by MattK

18s dont take half a day to rig, even from the trailer
 
Indeed.  45mins from trailer to water if you put a little effort into getting it properly sorted.  They're very simple boats.
 
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so really it's a social problems with sailors and their other hobbies?


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Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 11 at 5:12pm
perhaps a 3-person cat, two wires, you could said it 2-up in light stuff or 3-up in heavier breeze?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Contender 541 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 May 11 at 5:53pm
A little mention for one of the oldest classes out there:
 
A Rater - can be sailed as a 3 man hiker, single, double or treble trap. 
Speaking with one of the Rater boys a couple of years ago his comment was that treble trap is a bit of a suicide mission, but it can be (and is) done
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