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Ruscoe ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1514 |
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Hi, Has anyone laser aligned foils at home before? I seem to remember Rick doing it on his 12, but i can't find the thread. If not via a laser level, how would i go about it manually? I am refilling and drilling then refitting new pintles to the boat and i want to make sure everything is as it should be.How do you go about doing it? Turn the boat upside down, with foils down and then run a laser level across the foils???
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Laser 173312 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 08 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 416 |
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Don't know about using a laser level, but you need to turn the boat upside down with the foils in place and the tiller centered. If you stand at the bow you should be able to see if the foils are not in line.
In your case though as you are looking to refit the pintels you'll have to find some way to support the rudder so you can locate where the pintels need to go.
Best of luck
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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The other way to do it by eye is to hoist the boat in the air (from garage ceiling, perhaps) and then let the C/B down, and then put the rudder on. Might be easier when making any changes to the rudder pintles.
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simonrh ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 186 |
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Never used it for foil alignment but I have an inexpensive digitial "angle finder" that I use for work. It can be zeroed off on any surface and has a resolution of 0.1 degrees.
I meant to do my rudder with it at some point but I presume you can zero off on the boat / daggerboard and then true the rudder? |
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Menace ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 16 Oct 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 296 |
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This is how I'd do it in a garage. 1) Firstly turn the boat over. 2) Measure and mark the centre line on the base transom with a pencil, so you can see it also on the bottom of an up turned hull. You can often do this just by measuring to a mid point. 2) Go to the front of the boat, work out where the centre line of the bow is and shine the laser beam through the points of the front and aft centre lines. With the board down (sticking up in the air), you can check the actual alignment of the centreboard and adjust if off centre, to match your laser beam centre line going from point to point. It helps if you get a mate / partner / responsible child to help with the alignment of your laser line. As a bit of common sense, use your judgement to gauge if your laser centreline is on the centre, I wouldn't guarantee that your transom is perfectly square to your hull and that may have affected transom centre line measurements initially. 3) Now you know your centre board is alligned to the centre of the boat, you can level the boat. If you simply want your rudder to be aligned to your centre board, all you need to do is make sure your level is 90 degrees to your board. (Assuming your board has no play!) 4) Once you have achieved step 4, you can go to your stern, mark up 90 degrees downwards from your premarked centreline and fit your pintell. This is the quick way to do it, for more accuracy, you could attempt to level your boat and ensure your centre board is square to the underside of your levelled boat. The problem is you have to be quite careful when levelling a boat, on the boat yard we use auto-detecting surveyors laser levels and spend a good bit of time working on it as everything needs to be perfectly square and level for fit out. There are ways of doing it with long cross bars or assumptions that deck edges crossing transoms are level, but for a semi reasonable quick do-able thing, steps 1-4 suffice. Yachts and Yachting got Woofy to do an article on it over 10 years ago. You may be lucky and someone else may have it. Alternatively, I know Simon Hiscocks alligns 49er foils, he may be able to give you some good advice if you contact him through SHOCK.
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alstorer ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899 |
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I wouldn't guarentee that your hull is actually symmetrical...
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AlexM ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 857 |
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Russ, I thought you knew how to do foil alignment
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Ruscoe ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1514 |
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Ha Alex, forgot about that one!! That was the result of poor toestrap alignment !!
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SoggyBadger ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Oct 10 Location: The Wild Wood Online Status: Offline Posts: 552 |
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And here was me thinking that you were practising for the proposed new Synchronised Capsizing Olympic event ![]() ![]() |
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Best wishes from deep in the woods
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Menace ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 16 Oct 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 296 |
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I think the challenge is finding a boat that is truely symmetric..... (more chance of finding the Holy Grail) Edited by Menace - 21 Feb 11 at 7:44am |
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