The RS100 Owners Thread

Hi Tim,

How you doing ? Looked like a cracking event you guys had down in Valencia. Some serious talent sailing to !

I agree with you totally.

At the clubs where I sail we can pretty much use the Laser as a direct comparison as it has three sail size variants.

For club racing we can't 'chop and change' between rigs and score results in the same series. The guys who sail Laser Full Rig and Laser Radial (and girls who sail Laser Radial and Laser 4.7) score a separate set of results for each sail size. The OOD doesn't do this on visual recognition - the category is taken from the signing on sheet so to some degree relies on the sailor to be honest - although your own class mates would pretty quickly spot this !

Interestingly the Solo sailors at our club have a smaller high wind sail, which they can use without restriction if they wish - I understand they don't do this because the small sail badly upsets the balance of the boat. Most of the sailors also have a flatter high wind full size sail they can use.

I understand the D-one now has a smaller sail option. How are you guys dealing with that in terms of results etc. ?

Cheers

Chris

Originally posted by RS400atC Perhaps in a handicap fleet, the closest parallel to allowing multiple rigs would be with yachts?   In IRC for example, you get a rating cert based on the biggest sails. If you choose to change down to a smaller rig to suit the conditions, you keep the same handicap. It's different to the Laser/4.7/Rooster 8.? model, but equally valid. So why not race them all level and encourage people to have two or three sails and use the one they choose for each race? Maybe as the class grows it will be worth splitting the fleet, but if people are happy as it is, people outside the class, particularly RO's should be happy to accept it as one class with one PY.   Other examples: Using a small kite for a windy day on a 505 'Cruising' rig on an Enterprise- these used to appear at the Southport 24hrs, with no handicap involved, to be changed down to in the event of lots of breeze.

Edited by timg - 18 Oct 10 at 12:29pm

Perhaps in a handicap fleet, the closest parallel to allowing multiple rigs would be with yachts?

Originally posted by G.R.F. Originally posted by timg ChrisC   Here's a scenario....   A 100 sailor quite legitimately looks at the weather and thinks "i'll use the 7.4 today as it's blowing dogs off chains", but he has signed on for the Wed night series as 10.4 rig. Effectively what he is doing is "opting out" of that race for the series is he not? If the RO cannot tell the difference of rig then he gets a possible great result because he sails a 7.4 rig without capsizing around the course and scores a bullet. So imagine he gets a bullet on handicap? registered as a 10.4 rig for the series then when the PY returns come through it maybe that the 10.4 rig PY comes down further, incorrectly taking into consideration windy events perhaps.   If you chop and change rigs for the wind strength (as is your want) and the sails are clearly marked, then you are entering the series with each different rig and therefore cannot legitiamately get a final result in the series.   Confused? I think I might be....but you can see an issue surely?   Timg It's a simple thing to deal with, I thought we talked about it at the Nationals.  It's just a prize category, if you want to use 'Open Choice' of rig, i.e. mix and match rig to weight and condition that's a prize category, if you want to entire strictly 10.2, 8.4 or 7.4 then it's a separate category. I know it's difficult for you luddites, but it's just modern thinking and keeping a particularly nice hull shape open to all shapes of human including big ugly and small good looking people.

ChrisC