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Poll Question: Is it right or wrong for an SMOD to upgrade an ageing design
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    Posted: 12 Oct 10 at 12:18pm
Not sure where that came from SJ, but here's my take:
 

I think it is vital for a SMOD to rejuvinate if it wants to survive because I don't believe the identikit nature of SMODs is the most important reason why people sail them (else why haven't Laser closed the tiller loop hole?). 

 

In my opinion there are 3 main reasons why most people buy a SMOD.  In order of most to least important:

 

They are easy to buy - well marketed, no confusion as to who to buy from, available off the shelf

They are cheaper, faster and easier than the development class from which they are usually derived

They look contemporary - this is more important if the class is sold as 'high performance'

 

If you lose any of these avantages, folk will flock to something else, whether it is another SMOD, a traditional one-design or a development class.  Success breeds success.  People buy into classes that are perceived to be growing (and conversely sell from classes perceived to be shrinking). 

 

Equally I don't believe that the majority of Merlin Rocket and N12 sailors sail those classes because they like to tinker.  They sail them because they like modern, high quality kit and the development aspect means that they don't fall behind the times (unless the rules get in the way).  Most N12 sailors don't design new hulls or try out new rigs, they just buy whatever the winner is using because it is proven to be fast and effective.

 

There is a lot of pigeon holing of SMODs and development classes, but in reality the boundaries are more blurred.  Most people like sailing something that is modern and looks good.  The development classes offer this, at a price and with no compromise towards comfort or practicality.  The SMODs also offers this, at a good price but only for a limited period of time before they look dated again.  Twenty years on they show their age, so they have to adapt or die. 

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Damn, I just wrote a post looking at the SMODs that are succeeding (Topper, Radial, RSs, Squibs and Fireflies depending on definition) etc, and lost it.

The short story is that there seems to be no correlation between how contemporary a class looks, and the number of people who chose to sail it. Splashes and Byte CIIs look cooler than Radials and Toppers, and are much less popular. Melges 24s, 707s, 1720s, RS K6s and Elites look cooler than Squibs, and are much less popular. 59ers, RS500s, 29ers etc look cooler than Fireflies and they're less popular. Hobie Tigers, Shadows, Hurri 5.9 SXs etc look cooler than Sprints and Darts, but are less popular.

In fact the list of classes that survive seem to include some pretty daggy ones (Toppers, Radials, FFs, Squibs...hell, some of them even have horrible 60/70s coloured sails) while the list of recently deceased classes includes the much cooler 'n frood-ier ones like Melges 24s, 59ers, Splashes, Hobie Tigers etc, and there's not a lot of apparent interest in the nationals for good-looking boats like B14s, RS 600 foilers, Solutions etc.  
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SMOD updates should only be bought inwith the agreement of the class.  Not updating is a non option for even the most ardent reactionary so some would go through, primarily those that get over supply chain issues and escalating cost - who but a fool is going to vote for longer lead times and inreased prices??
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If you look at most SMODs there has been some progress since they were first introduced. With some classes it has been changes of materials (sail cloth, hull construction material). With others is has been more fundamental.
 
1 example is the Blaze, originally came with a 10.4 Sq M fully battened mainsail. Bit of a beast in a blow I am led to believe. After a class led initiative this was changed to the current rig that has made the class a success. There were also other changes including a different centerboard, Different rudder and a carbon boom. The rig change was easily retro fitted to the older boats (but they did need to purchase the new sail).
 
Even the Laser, probably the most strictly controlled 1 design has evolved over time. New control lines. use of different materials in tiller and extensions and (hopefully soon) a new sail that will last more than 5 minutes.
 
So to say that no SMOD or OD class has changed/evolved is (probably) untrue....
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Originally posted by Peaky

They are cheaper, faster and easier than the development class from which they are usually derived

Most people like sailing something that is modern and looks good.


Those are, shall we say, some quite suprising statements... How do you think the second on matches up against the top 20 classes in the YY table?

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I disagree when you say SMODs "look contemporary" - because they are stuck in the past, by definition! Whereas a a new boat in a development class will always have a 'modern' appearance.
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I don't think you should be updating an SMOD except for when existing build materials become obsolescent.

However, I also think that some of the SMOD Class rules are way too restrictive. Rules against tapering sheets, how many bits of elastic and even which manufacturer of cleat to use are just ridiculous and give the SMOD thing a bad name.

I'm no great fan of the Laser but it's continued popularity has to be something to do with the fact that when you buy one you can go out and race against another knowing you both have the same bit of kit. The same stretchy dacron sail on the same ali mast set into the same hull with the same mainsheet system to catch round the same transom. OK you now have the XD pack and a carbon tiller. But the XD only gives you the same vang and d/h you could have achieved before (albeit better packaged) and if 50g of saving against an ali tiller makes all the difference to you then go for it!

Generally updates to SMODs come from Class Associations panicking at a fall in attendance to try and save the class. They rarely work because the true reasons for a class falling out of popularity are never as simple as changing the mainsail.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote RS400atC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 10 at 3:42pm
Originally posted by turnturtle

a new merlin can still look dated from some points of view Mags...
All those quaint old fashioned things like a loyal class association, a busy, well attended open circuit and a high standard of racing....
You buy into more than just the hardware as they say...
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the Laser, probably the most strictly controlled 1 design


Is it?  I thought that the tolerances in hull/foil/mast shape and weight were fairly generous - although the actual numbers are not public.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote oldarn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Oct 10 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by G.R.F.

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It was really a yes no answer as to 'Should a so called Series Manufacturer One Design (if that's what SMOD stands for)alter a boat in any circumstance'.


Ok then, yes no.
Yes to modernise and no to any change that makes the moded boat faster!

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