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    Posted: 15 Sep 10 at 11:35pm
Nice one, busy earning sailing tokens through November, but any chance ill be there.
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Nice one, busy earning sailing tokens through November, but any chance ill be there.
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Any news on the Draycot weekend. Defo need a fix before the winter sets in, if not any other suggestions?? 
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Originally posted by ChrisC

Hi Graeme,

Upwind I don't think your centre mainsheet set up is doing you any favours here.

My advice would be to go back to the original set up and give sheeting-from-the-boom a try - you will find it is very comfortable and enables very subtle continuous trimming allowing you to keep the boat on the sweet spot.

For me this works really well and I don't use the ratchet (not needed because sheet load is so low) or the cleat. I leave the main cleated in the downwind position and simply let it run out and let go at the bear away.

Any advice on gybing much appreciated as I occasionally resorted to dropping and tacking around on that long race on the Sunday.

Cheers

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Done the mainsheet, it's back where it's started. But with that will come failed gybes, most of which occur when the stick gets engaged with the rear mainsheet as the boom comes across which I tend to activate manually, no idea how it's supposed to happen, but in the run up to a gybe in wind, first I look for a wave a la windsurf, then I soak, grab opposite spinnaker, nudge the helm enough to grab the boom and force it over whilst running up the side carrying the spinnaker sheet and reverse locking if it's breezy.
The way I frig around with the wiggle stick gets me into trouble.
 I'd love to have the smoothness of action that guy they showed us in the video has holding it behind his back as he goes up the new side, looked very smooth. My gybes are always clumsy affairs, but they nowadays succeed more than they fail simply because they always used to fail and I've practised them and removing the rear sheeting helped my crap technique.
Oh and  I don't come 'up' on the new side anything like as high as all those boats who were falling over did, so it's a soak to soak gybe then harden up once the spinnaker is full. I think being a light weight you have to respect the power of the kite on either side more than one of greater bulk is able to.



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Craigo - same problem with undoing the knot in the halyard...hence the loose clamcleats
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The other option on the 600 was to take the tail of the halyard and tie a loop in it close to the exit from the mast. The remaining tail was then taken down to to boom bolt and back up through the loop, then pull. It was often enough to get you the desired pre-tension.
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Originally posted by ChrisC

Hi Graeme,

Upwind I don't think your centre mainsheet set up is doing you any favours here.

My advice would be to go back to the original set up and give sheeting-from-the-boom a try - you will find it is very comfortable and enables very subtle continuous trimming allowing you to keep the boat on the sweet spot.

For me this works really well and I don't use the ratchet (not needed because sheet load is so low) or the cleat. I leave the main cleated in the downwind position and simply let it run out and let go at the bear away.

Any advice on gybing much appreciated as I occasionally resorted to dropping and tacking around on that long race on the Sunday.

Cheers

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Done the mainsheet, it's back where it's started. But with that will come failed gybes, most of which occur when the stick gets engaged with the rear mainsheet as the boom comes across which I tend to activate manually, no idea how it's supposed to happen, but in the run up to a gybe in wind, first I look for a wave a la windsurf, then I soak, grab opposite spinnaker, nudge the helm enough to grab the boom and force it over whilst running up the side carrying the spinnaker sheet and reverse locking if it's breezy.
The way I frig around with the wiggle stick gets me into trouble.

 I'd love to have the smoothness of action that guy they showed us in the video has holding it behind his back as he goes up the new side, looked very smooth. My gybes are always clumsy affairs, but they nowadays succeed more than they fail simply because they always used to fail and I've practised them and removing the rear sheeting helped my crap technique.

Oh and  I don't come 'up' on the new side anything like as high as all those boats who were falling over did, so it's a soak to soak gybe then harden up once the spinnaker is full. I think being a light weight you have to respect the power of the kite on either side more than one of greater bulk is able to.


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Not quite sure what your getting at there....

What we do in the 6's is hoist sail as normal and then use the cunningham tied to the main halyard tail to get any stretch out of the halyard - other methods of doing the same think using two clamcleats which avoids struggling to get the knots out. 

Or if you are using vectran halyards you can use one of those hand-held clamcleats (like windsurfers use for rigging Powergrip they are called CL261 or CL262) and give the halyard a final heavy pull (on teh 6 we can use our body weight under the halyard cleat - not sure if you can do that
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Hi Graeme,

Upwind I don't think your centre mainsheet set up is doing you any favours here.

My advice would be to go back to the original set up and give sheeting-from-the-boom a try - you will find it is very comfortable and enables very subtle continuous trimming allowing you to keep the boat on the sweet spot.

For me this works really well and I don't use the ratchet (not needed because sheet load is so low) or the cleat. I leave the main cleated in the downwind position and simply let it run out and let go at the bear away.

Any advice on gybing much appreciated as I occasionally resorted to dropping and tacking around on that long race on the Sunday.

Cheers

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Originally posted by turnturtle

Originally posted by G.R.F.

No, gybing them I have got dialed, downwind wasn't a problem, my problem is all uphill, there I suspect I could do with some of what y'all have got..

shame you could make it out on Sunday... some of us could have done with you showing some of your expertise in this area Graeme, personally I only landed about 30% of my gybes, and all the non-kite ones ended up in the piss... I'm going to have to watch that Huw fellow a bit more if we get that sort of breeze again.  He seemed to gybe the 10.2 without much grief, it's pretty humbling to think he only got that boat in mid-August and I've had since March to get this sh*t sorted  Embarrassed

Joking aside, on that water, with the 8.4 up gybing is not an issue. Grab the opposite spinnaker sheet, chuck the boom over yourself, S it a bit, it's a doddle. Given i spend most of my time trying to cope with the 10.2 which requires better timing, but is nonetheless do able if you've had the problems I've had over the brief period with the various asyms I've come to deal with in the sort of seas we often have to cope with.

Though personally I'd trade my gybing skill with your upwind ability, even though I passed a few on the downwind legs, i lost so much more on the longer upwind bit.

It'd upwind handling that defines this boat imho.

And I'd always thought it would be the other way round.
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