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Mikey 14778 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 298 |
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Unless I've lost my understanding of fundamental physics, it's almost identical to a normal rope
kicker but with a bit of mechanical advantage from the vertical bit and a hell of a lot of stress induced around the joint on the boom. I suspect it also loads up the gooseneck big-time, although I haven't done the maths to prove it. Not very good IMHO. [Edit] I'm talking about the thing Peaky posted, not the other curvy stuff. Big problem with the curvy stuff is that you'd have to get your mechanical advantage elsewhere - on a rope kicker you can get it with a cascade between boom and mast. Edited by Mikey 14778 |
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I guess all these alternatives cost a bit more than a bit of string, but the boomerany looks funky!
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Norbert ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 351 |
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I would guess this is effected by the acuteness of the boomerang angle. If it were less say as an arc deflecting merely 9 inches this will give a lot more space for the crew and a whole lot less stress on the structural intergrity... ![]() Edited by Norbert |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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In the Firefly, the kicker is used to put tension on the forestay up wind. I've been trying to picture whether this arrangement still bends the mast in the same way? Must look up the class rules and then do a mock up. Anyone got a photo of a real one?
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Spectacular strength required I should think... Lets think, according to some stats I just found on the net (http://msis.jsc.nasa.gov/sections/section04.htm#_4.9_STRENG TH) most men can pull about 40lbs with a moderately bent elbow. Then say a 16:1 kicker, that's 640lbs... That's a pretty substantial boomerang... |
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Norbert ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 351 |
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Would work well in your firefly aswell as Ents, fireballs etc |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I like the idea of the boomerang kicker - any reason they aren't used more?
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cad99uk ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 11 Mar 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 187 |
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Mike Any news as to whether you will use epoxy for the hull? |
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Norbert ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 351 |
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Wouldn't a carbon Kevlar boomerang kicker work, mount it
to the normal places and give you the same power and flexibility but remove the killer diagonal line between boom and mast [edit] can't upload my sketch thanks to the crap software this forum uses and chrome browser, the only browser on this linux workstation ![]() [edit2] installed Opera to see if that'll work! woo hoo it does! ![]() Edited by Norbert |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I've never been totally convinced about those...I have trouble working out in my head why they should be better than having an ordinary kicker anchored to the same point, which ought to be a bit lighter. You'd still have to reinforce the boom, but maybe not as much...
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