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    Posted: 01 Jul 10 at 3:26pm
Hmm, this year, wind we've had I'd have binned the entire boat if I hadn't had
a decent sized rig.. Being thrashed by my old Blaze was never part of the
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I was in a demo boat - (still pondering how to pay for my own without upsetting the missus).

It was the 8.4 rig - and to be frank, my earlier thoughts that I'd want a big rig have all but evaporated now. The 8.4 is easily big enough for most breezes and so I'd only use the bigger rig if it was very light. That wouldn't be allowed during a series, so I'd only use it in the odd 'one off' event. It just doesn't seem worth the effort / cost for the very few times I'd use it.

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Which sail are you using Keith?
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I sailed 3 races at the weekend in a F2 gusting 3. Yorkshire Dales SC - so fairly large open water with 1/2 mile beat and longer offwind.

Course was a one sided beat  where I was almost permanently at max power / hiking and wondering if I should have de-powered more - but there were lulls and I hate being underpowered. There was a mix of offwind angles - but all kiteable. Results were 6th - 4th and DNF (England kick off intervened) - but I was probably heading for a 3rd.

Trapeze boats dominated, but I also struggled against a couple of good RS200s and a fast Laser. Found the Laser was only a fraction slower upwind - so if he won the start it was hard to pass - but if I was in frront, I could extend a bit. Offwind it was all about gusts - if I got a strong gust on a tight leg I was really struggling to make the mark - but if I got one on the run / broader legs I was flying. 

I won an open event the week before in a 29er - against most of the same boats plus some visitors - and in lighter winds.So I can't (currently) see how the H/cap is a bandit

It would have been even harder to get a good result if it had been windier as more of the trapeze boats would probably have beat me. There's another 100 - sailed by a competent L4000 helm. She's struggling at back of the fleet at the moment - bottom 5 usually - but hasn't done much singlehanded sailing before this so will improve.

I reckon the PY may be about right - as I can hopefully improve as I get used to the boat and so start getting better results in those marginal conditions. The jury is out on performance in lighter stuff, and I know there's little chance for me in anything approaching a F4 as the trap boats and 200s will probably beat me. Bring on some class racing!

 



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Rodney - think its you who has transposed the numbers - its down as 971 after I asked for that to happen last week! 

The first week it was given the 400 HISC yardstick 930 ish - apparently Nick Rawlings (who does the HISC handicapping) was informed by Richard Stenhouse it was similar to a 400 last winter. I put him right.  

All's well.

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Originally posted by Nick Peters

Tim - I thought latest D-one py was 971? Have you been nobbled?

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Nick, Tim has certainly been nobbled but not as much as the nobbling at HISC where the D-One PY seems to be 917   Perhaps, as a member of the HISC sailing committee you have some influence here and can put the record straight?  Has someone transposed second 2 digits here I wonder?

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Andy,
great picture of 4034 but before some smart Alec points in out I
should say that that was it with it's original
owner ian forsdyke who won the worlds in her. Wish I had!
Great boat!
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Originally posted by SimonW99

I had a line honours last weekend, first for ages. IMHO the 100 is faster than
a well sailed laser in all but the very light on a reach or downwind when the
kite isn't powered up. Its too early to tell on overall handicap but I think it is
pretty close. No kite and the 300 will be a fair bit faster on all other points.

Reason a 300 is like a moth - Clive Everest designed it, leading moth
designer. Not far off a productionised moth of the time.

Simon,

What were the wind and wave conditions and course layout as a matter of interest?

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Originally posted by SimonW99


Reason a 300 is like a moth - Clive Everest designed it, leading moth
designer. Not far off a productionised moth of the time.


The 300 is very like a 1970's Womble  moth by Pete Conway. ( but bigger )

300 + womble 70's moths - rounded, high rockered, flared wide-waterline hull, solid wings, unstayed mast, soft triangular sail.

90's moths ( inc late Magnums, Axemen, and Clive's own moths ) - slab sides, narrow waterlines, chined, tube rack/wings, stayed rig, fully battened big roach sails.

OK the 300 is narrow compared to most other boats, but is significantly wider than a moth.

I can't find the womble pics ... but here's haroosh's moth from the 90's. ( not really like a 300 )



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300's lines are very mothy - they do look clean! Love it.



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