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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Trapezing a keelboat is such an obvious possibility I'm amazed it's not common. Why hike your knees off when you have such a nice stable platform to trapeze that even your granny could do it? |
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brys ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 89 |
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Some German Lake sailors seem to be fitting trapezes to their K6's, They claim it makes the boat really good upwind and faster down wind in a blow... Not class legal in UK but would like to try it! |
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peterthomas ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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I see that the first production K1 has been produced and is at the Boat Show -
http://www.k1sailing.com/index.html |
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Sail IC ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 02 Nov 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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I've been racing mostly IC/505 but at 50 I bought this K6 just to have fun with. Trapezing with the assy up I can get away with murder where I would go swimming in an MPS/RS700 in notime, and the water in Sweden is cold. As you stated, faster and more comfortable upwind. I did som racing 15 years ago on Libras. 40 foot keelboats with 12 guys on trapeze with a 20 foot wingspan. There are actually quite a few keelboats sailed on the lakes in the Alps with trapeze, the Libera being the most extreme |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Yes, the Tempest, but you still have to be huge and strong to crew a Tempest competitively! But in boats like the F15/K6 if you're using the lead during racing you aren't fast - they need to be sailed upright (I believe Ian Barker's F15 world champ crew was 6'6" and 18 stone to achieve this!). So they could be sailed more comfortably if crews could trapeze. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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The Tempest has a trapeze, I believe, and never exactly caught the world on fire...and Proctor tried a big brother keelboat for the Osprey which I think had one, and never took off at all. I suspect that for the majority, putting lead under a boat is an alternative to a balancing act.
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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I appreciate that that isn't legal on a K6, but it's always puzzled me that more keelboats don't use trapezes. Trapezing is basically more comfortable and less demanding than hiking, the only proviso being that a certain agility is required on lively dinghies to get in and out on gusty days, but a keelboat will give plenty of time and the consequences of a tea-bagging won't include a capsize. Wasn't it Paul Elvstrom who said that he couldn't understand why the Star (or was it F15?) didn't use a trapeze? |
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Sail IC ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 02 Nov 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4 |
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This is a K6 for those with no friends ..... Or perhaps rather an RS700 for old farts |
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Paul Handley ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 24 Aug 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
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Yes, tacking backwards probably due to too many years Firefly sailing... The keel weighs 60kg on the prototype and will probably be about 65kg for the production version. The prototype mast is very stiff and with just over 11sqm sail area (8 main, 3 jib) the boat heels readily in a breeze, but as Medway Maniac notes its designed to be sailed heeled anyway. The breeze was quite solid at times when the video was taken and at 73kg I'm at the lower end of the crew weight range. Still confident though that with the rig sorted on the production hull, which is slightly wider too, stability will be about right with this sail plan. Re launching and landing, the keel can be raised and lowered easily with the 6:1 block and tackle, even with the mainsail up provided the boom is not on the centreline. At the Hamble I raised the keel before sailing up the slipway - its probably more stable like this than most single-handed dinghies with the board up. Needs about 6 inches more depth for the trolley than a typical dinghy and pulling it up the slipway was easy. We'll try to get some video of this up on U-tube soon and venture out to some waves too. |
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dontdocalm! ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 74 |
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How about this for an Endeavour trophy boat! Edited by dontdocalm! |
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