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    Posted: 20 Apr 10 at 2:24am
At the risk of sounding dimmer than usual...

It might just be the angle of the shot but the mast looks to be bending in a funny way!

Strait at the top and bent at the bottom.

EDIT: Could be a Gnav thing?


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Alan,

I'm not an expert !!!!!!

Very interesting photo - a great start by the way and very nice trim !

You look to be sheeted a bit tighter than I have doing - traveller appears
to be 100 to 150mm off the stop (would be good to see a higher res
close up shot) and possibly as a result bottom battens maybe look a little
bit hooked compared to the 300's, although could be an optical illusion.

Any other shots ?




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Re upwind sheeting, pic of first race start yesterday, about 11mph. No idea whether thats too tight or whatever, so any experts please say.

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Originally posted by AlanH

Hi all, I hope a non owner can join in..


Hello Alan,

Too right - the more input the better particularly if you have experience
of other similar boats and can provide the useful sort of comparison that
you have.

I am really keen to find out how people are sailing the boat upwind and
the sheeting angle - this is all very new to me (other boats I sail dont
have the same sort of input). Presently I am sheeting in till the traveller
block just starts to pull away from the stop, then helming to keep the sail
flowing to that angle. You can sheet a lot harder / go higher but for me
that angle feels sweet.

I think I am setting the outhaul slacker than you but keeping the top of
the sail flat with a lot of kicker.

On the kite launch I am struggling with the seated / one hand on tiller
method (although my sailing buddies are Ok with that) and have ended up
kneeling on cockpit floor steering with tiller end in small of my back
using both arms for a very rapid launch. Would be great to see dome
video of what everyone is doing.

I have had a few kite snag issues but generally think these are over.
Understand latest boats have a minor mod to eliminate the kite bunching
behind the chute mouth and this is going to retro'ed onto earlier boats.

PY wise reckon I am sailing the big sail to a figure just under 1000 - I am
winning races in lighter breeze on PY (not great assy conditions) but am
still getting to grips with the 100 and this type of boat full stop so am
hoping for an improvement over time so results now are unduly
flattering.

Have to say its such a rewarding boat I have been going out evenings just
for a drift around - and I previously loathed any sort of light wind sailing !






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Hi Alan,
good to hear you are getting some shots of the demo boat. Are you
sailing it as prestwick? Regarding your comments around hoists I
actually find it very easy to hoist versus other boats I have sailed but I
suppose it's all relative. Getting in a position that you ate able pull
easily is important and I have developed an unusual style of sitting on
side deck and ticking the extension under my backside so I have 2
hands to hoist very quickly. I found holding onto the extension too
slow to hoist. I will need to get one of the guys to video this as it
would be interesting to compare techniques as people become more
experienced. As for upwind chop I have found that in the forth chop I
need to free off a little to power through it or else it can be slow trying
to point in through it.
Maybe see you during the season at some regattas if your still using
the boat.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Merlinboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 10 at 8:57pm

Ha ha  Grumpf, I'm not rising big boy!  If it is indeed faster then lets drop your trial PY to below 1000!!

 

FWIW i dont fall over much in gusts and waves anymore, the 300 is a boat for people that want to challenge their technique!  Not buy a boat that can be sailed buy any Newbie numpty.

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ER downwind hidden in the carbon fibre bit is a big ballooney thing called a
spinnaker, when you put it up and head up until the boat leaps forward then
you progressively bear away, it will totally destroy those silly toilet bowl 300
boats that fall over whenever a wave or strong puff hits them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote AlanH Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Apr 10 at 8:17pm
Hi all, I hope a non owner can join in. I'm having a shot of an RS100 courtesy of JP Watersports, the Scottish RS dealers. Much enjoying it. To answer a question about RS300s; I had two races against a bunch of RS3s yesterday and previously sailed an RS3 for 2 years. The RS1 is very different in character. You may not have to be a little crazy to sail an RS3 but it helps. The RS1 is so much more stable, its very relaxing to sail compared with the 3. You even have luxuries like a centre jammer. I reckon the 1's position in market is for intermediates/ racers, not strictly the latter as per RS3, 6 and various other RSs. I've only used the 8.4 so far, it went quite well against the RS3s, just a tad slower on most points of sailing, in two races of 11 mph and 8 mph. First race finished among most RS3s on water, but one beat me on hcap. Second race in lighter stuff, windwd leewd, lost to two of them on hcap. Results depend very much on wind and angles of legs. RS1 fast on tight reach, of course slow on deep legs in light winds. Agree use lots kicker generally. Not sure re outhaul sail depth, want to try more, only had couple fingers width versus boom at max depth. My problems so far; slow upwind against a chop, slow hoists and drops, hi friction in chute. Any ideas? Re latter, will try standing up on hoist/ drops instead of sitting on side deck, what do other ppl do? Suggest someone starts kicker calibration to facilitate discussion. Like RS3 do upper and lower stripes x cm and y cm above the frankenstein bolt.
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Originally posted by turnturtle

just as note guys, you may find you're sitting further
forward during the
hoists and drops with a bit more time in the boat. I've refrained from
adding any additional traction to the transom areas of the deck until I'm
damn sure it'll be in the right spot. I've noticed my weight's going
forward
incrementally as I get more happy and gung-ho with the when and how I
get the kite up. In fact the only time recently that I've ever had a foot
behind
the fixed block on the spinnaker halyard take up, is when launching...

NB I'm inland with no waves, so could affect this somewhat


James I have found the same to - basically not been any further back than
the middle of the boat, but havn't been out in any swell or big wind yet. I
am only putting the grip on the forward part, say about 1.0m back from
the cockpit front and this is to help with tacking (I seem to stand on the
side tank) and in very light airs, where I have been sitting forward with
feet on opposite side tank - actually very comfortable !
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Originally posted by G.R.F.


only fault I found, during a gybe I slipped back into the boat on a shiney
bit


I've ordered some TBS grip from Sailboats to apply to the bevelled section
between the floor and the side tank and also to the lower side tank - seem
to stand on these shiny bits when tacking and also in light winds and have
gone A over T a few times as a result !

Have to say the grip on the floor and the raised central spine is excellent as
is the grip on the side decks, which keeps you safely in place at all times.
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