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    Posted: 06 Apr 10 at 11:48am

James,

Just so were clear from the photo the issue is at the back end of the chute. The front end is very neat indeed.

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Here is a close up. Its a tiny issue and Im seeking perfection and it sounds like the refitting the chute and using the LPT may help this. We will see what the RS guys suggest.

 

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I have discussed this with Alex, and it's something we're looking into- we'll discuss it more when I get back to work tomorrow (new boiler today, and no, I don't mean I'm getting married again!) To refit the chute onto the Velcro you need an LPT (Long pokey thing for the uninitiated) to reach from the back of the foredeck, or release the elastic at the back of the chute, pull it foreward and scrunch it up a bit, then you can get hold of it from the front. We may need to put some foam behind the lip to pack it, although I'm told small paint rollers fit perfectly! Strangely we never had the issue on the prototypes/demo boats, but with a wider range of people using the boats more regularly, we were always going to find something that needed tweaking.
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No problem Nick. I was planning to send you and Rob a picture today explaining what I have seen. I am surprised this has not been seen on the prototypes as its quite obvious now I have experienced it. Its at the back edge of where the chute is attached to the boat with velcro and the kite downhaul simply snags the back edge and eventually pulls the velcro apart.

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We will have a closer look at the next batch of boats going through here this week to understand what is happening - photos to Rob Eastwood would be great: Clearly we were planning that this boat would be "tape free"!! We still do not use it at all on the demo boats.

Good news that you all have pace in the light - performance in breeze will come with practice, technique, and I'm afraid hiking fitness!

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I have had another look at the chute and I do think tape is the only way to really prevent the downhaul snagging the corner of the velcro when dropping the kite. Just a shame I need to put tape on the lovely looking bow arrangment.

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Hi Keith and Phil,

Yes, having same issues with kite chute velcro to. Havn't been able to
suss out quite how it is intended to work yet. I think the velcro is
supposed to be fixed to the inner top edge of the chute roll over - but
you would need very long arms to reach in that far !!! Needs something
as I think it is causing some snagging and resulting friction is causing
haliyard to cut into chute mouth a bit.

Think I had similar racing experience to you guys. In the lighter stuff
(light and very smooth water) smoked away from everything upwind
despite limitations of my ability. When the breeze and chop got up took
quite a few swims (due to stupid boat handling errors !) found the max
kicker was essential and free off a bit to keep speed up.

All-in handicap racing over 3 days in a variety of conditions (sailed my
Vortex for a change today in nuking breeze) finished somewhere near top
very
pleasingly ahead of quite a number of very competitive well sailed Solos.
TN at 1005 feels about right but I can see it dropping a bit as more boats
get on the water and we all start getting to grips with it.

Forget the kite on the reaching legs in any sort of breeze. Found the
downwind angles are very deep, which is great for soaking below trapeze
assymetrics but still with good speed.

Overall very very pleased and really cant fault the boat at all - just need
to get fitter and learn some better boat handling - interestingly found I
sailed my Vortex a lot better after just a couple of days in the 100 as it
demands considerably more precise sailing.

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Well I've been sailing for the last 2 days in force 4 to 5's.
On Saturday I started with the Merlins as they're a similiar PY (I'm
using small rig) and they were faster upwind and I was quicker
downwind but with the kite up I just couldn't do the trianglular
reaches. So lesson one was windward/leeward courses are a must.

I'll admit I had my first swims as well but surprisingly both of them
going in a straight line! Lesson 2 bear away lots when you get a big
gust!

I've been having the same trouble with the kite catching on the top of
the chute whilst pulling it up. I've tried reattaching the velcro but it
came off again. Tape needed.

I raced with the 200's yesterday and the top half of the fleet were v
slightly quicker upwind. I then overtook them downwind and we then
started the process again.

There was one run where a force 6 gust came and I decided to just
keep going rather than gybe!

I'm also really having to work at not stalling going upwind in a chop.
Lesson 3 a flat boat and a fit helm needed!

I ended up having full rake and max kicker which helped.

Still great fun sailing. Even to the point where I did an extra lap after
I had finished one race.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote haroosh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Apr 10 at 10:02pm
One observation I made today was around the kite chute at the bow.
It's got velcro attaching it to the bow and I found the kite retrival line
was snagging it a few times today resulting in the Velcro being pulled
apart. I think I will tape over the Velcro to make a smoother exit and
entry for the kite. Wondering if anyone else has found this also.
Cheers, Keith
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I had my first race yesterday and it was our all classes hcp season
opener. Light winds with a triangle sausage course. Kept just ahead of
a 4000 who needed more breeze and main competition was a very
experienced mps, a 200 and a couple of Finns. I ended up just
winning on 1014 hcp with small rig. I felt downwind in light winds it
was mega quick and able to sail very deep. Biggest challenge for me
was keeping speed going upwind. Overall mega pleased with
performance and already hearing mutterings of handicap bandit boat!
Time will tell how competitive I can be in the breeze. cheers keith.
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