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narc ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 26 Sep 09 Online Status: Offline Posts: 70 |
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I don't think any RS boats bar the 600 have fully battened mains. When you sail a boat that does, like the 600 or a 14 you know about it! Even handelling them launching can be tricky. |
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Steve411 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 08 Location: Cheddar, Somerset, England Online Status: Offline Posts: 705 |
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Good question. I don't know! It's probably not a bad idea in the early days til you're used to how the boat reacts, though obviously if you go through too many degrees then the boat will be heeled too much on the new tack. In the 300 it's only a problem when it's windy. What I tend to do is do a slow but positive movement with the tiller then, as I pass under the boom onto the new tack I snap in the main momentarily which seems to help the turn, then immediately release it until I'm fully hiked on the new side before sheeting in properly again. |
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I don't think the batterns are full; the black bit on the battern pockets is extended beyond the end of the batten to make them look longer than they actually are. |
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Then again I've never sailed a 100! I've no idea, for example whether the 100's fully-battened rig will make a difference. If you look a the pic of the 300 above you'll note that the top batten is inverted or at least board flat (another way of telling if you have enough kicker on in a blow). But what effect will excessive kicker will have on the other battens in a fully -battened main???? Guess you'll have to ask your class chairman as the only person who's sailed both boats! Edited by Steve411 |
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asterix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 621 |
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Thanks on being positive, is it a question of tacking well through the wind (>100 degrees or so) and then once on the new tack pointing up again? |
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I've never sailed a 300 but can fully believe that the
techniques being spoken of here will work just as well on the 100. Each time I sailed the 100 in a blow I found that pulling on the out haul just killed the power and made it much harder to punch through the hailing chop so I used more and more kicker plus some cunningham when it was howling. Probably not as much as is being suggested here but i will certainly be trying it myself when my boat arrives. Ian |
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Steve411 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 08 Location: Cheddar, Somerset, England Online Status: Offline Posts: 705 |
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If I'm feeling agile (not very often), or panicked into making a crash tack (quite often), or I forget (very often). Usually, if the kicker is block to block I let off a bit (so that the blocks are about 3-4 inches apart) so I can get under the boom with it brushing over the top of my buoyancy aid. With this amount of kicker the leech is pretty hard so you have to be positive through the tack or else there's a risk you'll end up in irons. |
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wow that is a lot of bend - do you tack with the kicker still on?
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Second that. On the 300 we set up the gnav so that there is a bit of prebend in the mast when the kicker is fully off (blocks beginning to pull over the rollers). If you don't thave any preben you will not be able to get sufficient kicker on upwind in a blow. When Russ says use lots of kicker he means use LOTS of kicker. It's all about power management. If you're overpowered upwind pull on more kicker, if you feel underpowered let a bit off. In an unstayed rig leech tension, mast bend and therefore sail fullness are all interlinked so kicker is the primary control. From top end of force 3 upwards be prepared to pull the kicker on block to block. In a 300 this means that the top of the mast is benind your sitting out position (i.e. loads of mastbend). The mastbend means that the top half of the sail is board flat (Good) with power generated by the lower half. For this reason don't pull on much outhaul until it gets seriously windy as you'll need some grunt low down. |
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