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    Posted: 07 Mar 10 at 4:54pm
A boat without a fixed (permanently down) appendage. Certainly most of the standard sailing boat design texts
seem to imply this definition.

I think anything about weather it plains or not is a
"performance dinghy" (whatever that is...) hang up and equally the claim of the flying fifteens, tempests and
other small fast keel boats is really a dinghy is a hang up
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Dinghy: original spelling "Dingi is" a hindi name for a particular rowing boat.

 

http://bengalboat.blogspot.com/2009/12/dingi.html

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Originally posted by chrisclark123

How about a dinghy can be recovered without mechanical aid.
I.e. doesn't need a car to pull it up the slipway.

That would exclude traditional boats like the Brighlingsea One Design and others of the same ilk..

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Dinghy: anything with one hull and without a keel or a
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Steve411 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Mar 10 at 9:49am

Originally posted by chrisclark123

How about a dinghy can be recovered without mechanical aid.
I.e. doesn't need a car to pull it up the slipway.

That's the Albacore and GP out then.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote chrisclark123 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Mar 10 at 10:47pm
How about a dinghy can be recovered without mechanical aid.
I.e. doesn't need a car to pull it up the slipway.
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OK, add categories Scow (incl. Topper), Catamaran (incl. Vortex) and swing keel/water ballast keelboats. Heavy c/b boats are generally sailed upright, are they not, so comparable with F15?

Alternatively, maybe a dinghy could be defined as a boat whose righting moment when raced by 'those who know' is mainly achieved through crew weight. Might need further definition of 'mainly' as a percent. Certainly, when I was trying to come up with a reliable indication of righting moment for the purposes of my comparative performance spreadsheet, I found that the proportion of crew weight to all-up weight alone tended to be a reliable discriminator of which boats could be regarded as dinghies and which, as keelboats, had to have the boat weight taken into account for sail carrying power.

For me the F15 is still a self-righting dinghy, albeit one which could do with a harsh diet...

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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Maybe a reasonable definition would be that you race a dinghy upright, thus deriving no righting moment benefit from any keel weight, whereas on a keelboat is sailed heeled to use, at least partially, the keel.



But... tunnel-hull moth, vortex, grf's new boat , toppers, scows  -  these don't sail best upright, and do benefit from more righting moment due to heel, and are all dinghies.

But...Open 60's that do the same also have a keel. ( and are not dinghies)

But...Catamarans are not ( usually ) keelboats, so are arguably a special sort of dinghy.

But... Other local types of dinghy eg lymington scow, westwight scow, seaview OD, are dinghies, but have heavy metal centreplates to help increase righting moment ( as did most old dinghies inc the int 14. )

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Maybe a reasonable definition would be that you race a dinghy upright, thus deriving no righting moment benefit from any keel weight, whereas on a keelboat is sailed heeled to use, at least partially, the keel.

On that basis, I guess the F15 is a self-righting dinghy if you watch the top guys, or a kelboat if you observe the tail enders

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Trust me - A Fifteen will plane - in a force 15 (forum wind).  It actually needs a force 4 or above and you start getting very wet
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