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Just had a quick look in my rule book and you're quite right (with the exception of 10) rules 6-9 certainly need to be re written...... or maybe just written?! Where are they? |
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Jamesd ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 01 Feb 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 377 |
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Yeah except it then becomes a case of the rich become richer. the boat in first rounds the weather mark hoists and comes back down the beat and the other boats have to keep clear, tacking on lifts, tacking off laylines etc, all pushing them further behind. I know what you are getting at, but i cant see how it would work. im sure that ISAF have thought about and not come up with a viable solution yet. Was there not once a rule that said upwind boats had to keep clear of offwind boats or vice versa? i may have just made that up in my head though |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I want it rewritten that a boat who has overstood the mark upwind can't come down and be allowed room at the mark, when rounding to port from port or starboard from starboard. If a boat has judged right, he should be able to tell the other one to get lost. All it would need is for the windward boat rule not to switch off.
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zailor ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 09 Location: Penparc Online Status: Offline Posts: 249 |
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I guess it come's to the best sailing logic I have ever heard: |
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Presuming Ed ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 641 |
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Looking to windward RRS blog: http://rrsstudy.blogspot.com/2010/02/worst-sailing- innovation-ever.html |
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Phil eltringham ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: England/Hitchin Online Status: Offline Posts: 1105 |
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room should apply at a windward mark EVEN IF the boats are on opposite tacks |
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Jamesd ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 01 Feb 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 377 |
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but there is no whereto go to give room. imagine approaching the weather mark on starboard, for a port rounding and there is a guy on port you have to give room to. you have two options, duck him and miss the bouy or tack off. would be awful |
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Bargers charter? |
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Phil eltringham ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: England/Hitchin Online Status: Offline Posts: 1105 |
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Not at all. I can't remember when it was but it was something that Andy Rice discussed in his column. It is no different that the situation you get at the bottom of a run (starboard gate mark) where boats converge on opposite gybes and a port boat can have an inside overlap and hence rights over a starboard boat. We are happy with this where the closing speeds are higher, and options for getting out of the way are fewer. It will change the tactics required a lot, but if you've played a blinder up the left, is it fair that you have to give it all up at the top mark because there is no gap for you to file in on? Granted the rules are what they are, and right or wrong they are the same for everyone, but the question is what would you like to change? I would certainly like to try a few races like that, just to see how it works in practice. |
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Jamesd ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 01 Feb 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 377 |
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you do have some rights approaching on port, its not the end of the world
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