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Slippery Jim ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Nov 09 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 586 |
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I humbly apologise for any reason to have motivated you use defamatory and aggressive language on this forum when I was clearly showing signs of being fed up with not having my question understood. Perhaps you should reconsider your tone. Experience - luckily second hand - has shown me that the verbal assailant wakes up a few hours later in hospital with multiple, severe injuries, such as glass in the face, neck, stabbing wounds, baseball bat bludgeons and so on. I know you can hide behind your monitor sniggering, but my advice to you is to save the talk about dicks for when you need to use your own for the right reasons and otherwise not to take that type of language out in public. Shalom and good night Edited by Slippery Jim |
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Pass the skiff, man!
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asterix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 621 |
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well lets have the reason then - else this current discussion is endlessly uninformative |
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deleted as I was being a dick, as can be seen in the quote box below. Edited by Doug.H |
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Slippery Jim ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Nov 09 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 586 |
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Letīs keep it simple simon undergraduate-like then. My question relates solely to the increase in mainsheet tension which might occur when a boat starts to plane in marginal conditions, nothing more. Anything else is, however irrelevant to this question. There is a real reason for wanting to know this. With all due respect I donīt need to know about your laser - itīs a blow downwind boat and only has one sail. ![]() if youīre prepared to look for it. And what about main sheet tension on the RS100 in this context then? ![]() Edited by Slippery Jim |
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laser193713 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889 |
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What i meant was the answer to the mainsheet loads question has a lot of variables, depending mainly on kicker tension and wind strength. So there is no real answer. And high kite loads even with a linear drag curve |
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Slippery Jim ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Nov 09 Location: Germany Online Status: Offline Posts: 586 |
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I want to keep my drag curve as it is anyway, for obvious reasons! ![]() far as I can remember, the Laser5000 mainsheet loads increase very suddenly coming onto the plane, since the drag curve is like that. The loads on the 59er are about 1/2 that of a standard laser. As for ally boom and its effectiveness and the use of the kicker, it all depends which tool you use to change the sail profile etc. and this varies from boat to boat. This has very little to do with my question though, since once you īve got the sail apparently set right with the kicker or whatever you use, my question still remains. We also use Harken ratchets on the 59er spinnaker sheet, since the loads are quite high. |
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Stevie_GTI ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 21 Oct 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 134 |
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The RS100 does come with ratchet blocks for the spinnaker sheets.
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Martin - LSC ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 32 |
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Yep, according to one of Nick's blogs they decided on ratchets for the spinny sheets. However the one guy we all know with an actual boat will be able to tell us for sure. I'll be fitting them anyway, if they're not standard. At my age I was thinking about a Lewmar power pack and full hydraulics/ powered winches, kicker, outhaul etc and maybe the keel from a K1 ..... but maybe too heavy???? |
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laser193713 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889 |
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You can keep your drag curves, 59ers and 4000s! The mainsheet loads should in theory be similar or slightly lighter than a laser im guessing. Lighther perhaps because the kicker will be more effective without a pathetic aluminium bendy boom. The sheet loads will all depend on whether it turns out to be faster to sail the boat with lots of kicker or not. I have not managed to see whether they have bothered with ratchets on the kite sheets, the blocks look small in all the photos but that doesnt mean they arent ratchets and all the close up shots seem to conveniently cover or not show the blocks! I know someone on here knows the answer!
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Indeed I do. The 4000 has annoyingly high main loads most of the time (assuming we're running a 4:1, though I've plenty of nancy boys with 5:1 AND a cleat..... disgraceful!). Massacring the kicker is pretty standard but then it is with most fully battened mains I would have thought (though not so much the 200/400). Anyways this is all far too far away from the 100.....how to link it all in? So boys, what's the main load on the 100 like? There we go, saved! |
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