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    Posted: 13 Nov 07 at 2:46pm

Fraggle, 

Your size and weight will be OK for the 300. You might be a bit light of the B rig but you can always reef that if need be which brings it to the same size as the A rig. The rig is very easy to depower. After a few sails you will soon find that throwing weight around in the boat won't help and that's it all technique. Why not get the adresses of those 300's at your club and write to them offerring money? You never know. But of course, try all the boats before you buy.
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Originally posted by Fraggle

Well I now have a go in a Europe lined up for this weekend - any tips that I should bear in mind?

Cheers for that one - I seem to hit my head on my lasers boom often enough as it is!
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why are you quoting yourself?

and just duck some more during tacks
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Quoted the wrong thing and then couldn't delete it  d'oh!!
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I would have to agree either a europe or a Byte CII (I now have both!)  Honestly a 300 would be great but unless you are sh** hot they can be a real handful for someone of your weight in big wind and waves (even the A rig).  You will find that a lot of the lightweights in the class sail inland!

The Byte has a great rig and you will be able to sail it in any wind, speak to Maggie or Olwen to arrange a ride at Weston, they both sail there.

As for the Europe I'm to new to offer much of an opinion but I have chosen to buy one!
I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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Originally posted by tack'ho

Honestly a 300 would be great but unless you are sh** hot they can be a real handful for someone of your weight in big wind and waves (even the A rig).  You will find that a lot of the lightweights in the class sail inland!

where did you get that interesting fact from? I think it is safe to say that the sailors are evenly split between sea and pond.  See the photos below. Two of the lightest sailors in the fleet sailing A rigs at the 2006 nats on the same day. One is a pond and one is a sea sailor. Can you tell which? 

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I think you should try all the boats that appeal before parting with hard eraned cash.
 
Oh yes, it;s also more fun trying out lots of boats


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There is a subtle difference between 'all' and 'a lot'!  And you will also notice I said unless your good (not my exact phrase but...)

ps. How many people under 70 kgs or using the A rig have placed top 5 in the Nats?

Agreed about making sure you try though!
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rs300s are very cool if you want a good single hander - i'm a very similar build to you and have sailed one before, didnt fnd it much struggle, and there was a fair bit fo wind, but try it before you buy, you need to be quite nimble and fast reactions. They sit quite high when you capsize, heehee.

Have you thought about going double handed? There's a lot to be said for sailing with someone else, as either helm or crew, you learn a lot. I crewed after helming for ages, and am addicted now. Its a great tool to have.
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Originally posted by tack'ho

 

ps. How many people under 70 kgs or using the A rig have placed top 5 in the Nats?

Out of 31 boats, on first count there were 3 A rigs and one in the top ten. Does that count? Ok you have to be good, but not a sailing God and besdies, the 300 will improve you to the required standard provided you stick with it. It worked for me!

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The RS300 is the one that appeals most for boat itself but fleet racing is non existent in the class at my club whereas the Europe has a fleet.  No offence to Byte sailors but they seem too small and slow to me.  Will see what I think of the Europe this weekend and if the RS300's at my club appear over the winter will try and get a go on one of them too.

Used to sail double handed but have no crew anymore and I'm a rubbish crew as I boss my helm around too much.  Had a go helming an RS800 a few months ago which I really enjoyed (even when I tacked without unhooking ooops!) but no one to sail with regularly.  Plus my OH is trying to convince me to stick with radial as he's a laser sailor and makes things much easier for travelling to events.
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