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Topic: Big handicap eventsPosted: 13 Feb 10 at 10:41am |
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I know plenty of people who were giving it their all as kids and have since dropped out, but I don't know of a single one of them that regrets what they did and would have rather spent their time just club racing. I did a lot as a junior, youth and then when I left that scene I didn't decide because I didn't make it I'd give up sailing, I enjoy it so I still do it. A lot of the people that leave sailing that I know seem to go on to windsurfing, kitesurfing or normal surfing as their main hobby. They all love the water but they want and all out buzz that doesn't need 20 more people to race you to create it. I tell you what, I'll go and ask as many people I'm still in contact with from the youth scene their exact reasons for not racing anymore, then we can really get some accurate reasoning. |
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oldarn
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Posted: 13 Feb 10 at 11:09am |
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I did say it was part of a much bigger subject. One point is as you say Doug.H, there are now many other affordable and exciting sports. In any case many kids want and perhaps need to move on. What I am partly getting at is that it take many parents as well as the kids out of club sailing and supporting the club, with no apparent gain for most kids! |
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Posted: 13 Feb 10 at 11:25am |
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To what extent parents should indulge their kids is a continually ongoing subject. My four children have all been indulged, within my limited budget. The sailing boy never did squads, thank God, but won a lot and still sails.. The girl made grade 8 clarinet but never played again after starting university 5 years ago. Another boy had a few piano lessons and still plays and my motor racing enthusiastic son now repays my favors to him by taking me to circuits in his car. So, you spend the money give the encouragement and what will be will be. However never apply pressure just provide encouragement.
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Posted: 13 Feb 10 at 11:43am |
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Thats right, Give the opportunity and the encouragement, but no pressure. The pressure should come from the child. I recall the parents in a sailing family I know who continued going to the class circuit events, after the child refused to go, in order to socialise. I wonder how much pressure was put on that teenager before he was allowed not to go. He now stick to his rugby. child terf |
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off subject, RYA coaches are not the problem, parents are.... if you encourage and support that's fine, if you push and cojole, eventually you'll get a backlash... doesn't matter what the sport is; I know quite a few nowadays who moved away from rugby & football into sailing <when teenagers> because they were "sick of hassle" from parents regarding their participation ...
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I did suggest this needed to be another Topic. But, the point I was making was that too many young sailors (parents) are approached by coaches to join a 'squad' thus leaving parents believing they have a Shirley/Ben in the making. Seeing GOLD, the parents are naturally willing to spend all to achieve it. Coaching is of course worth while, but surely only for those who are usually naturally gifted and stand out by winning locally, and do well nationally. Do we really need to drag the army of average sailors and parents around the country and away from their clubs. Bring back club class racing! |
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Posted: 15 Feb 10 at 11:50am |
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Well, whatever my personal opinion may be regarding squads and the way they douse enthusiasm, they do work, producing stars from a galaxy of average sailors. It's a pity about those left behind with shattered dreams but that is perhaps what it takes?
A mother I know was planning her sons Olympic campagin as soon as he stepped into a Topper, but it all turned to dust. Another boy had to give up sailing when he was 14 because of athletic squad pressure. He is now, at 18, the best GB athlete under 20 in his discipline and looking at the next Olympics. Perhaps these things just have to be done? |
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