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Poll Question: Should the big handicap events move to the Summer?
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    Posted: 12 Feb 10 at 5:57pm
But if you move all the big handicap events to the summer, what the hell
are we supposed to do in the winter.
Sure you could hold new ones in the summer but certainly don't move the
existing events away from their time of year.

We live in a cold country and if you don't like it, move. Winter is just
another time of year and has as much validity to have events as the
summer. Anyone who's done the bloody mary several times will have
undoubtedly complained about the cold on they day. However, in future
months will miss that pain and suffering because no matter how bad it
was, it was pretty damn funny to go do something that stupid!

Everyone loves telling stories of frozen sheets, icicles, and sheet ice on
the floor of the boat, so MTFU and be happy that we have these big
events in the most painful time of year.
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moving them to the summer would have far too many events in the summer. The majority of the class open meetings are held in the fair weather period, and almost always the europeans, worlds and nationals are all in the summer too. A lot of people therefore would probably not even be able to afford to do all the events and the handicap events would loose out on attendance
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Everybody knows dinghy sailors are nutters who don't give a damn
about kewell, style or attracting new blood.

But the question posed was getting new blood, and you don't do that in
the winter, they (potential sailors) aint even looking.

I'm not saying don't have winter events for the tin bath in front of coal
fire brigade, but y'all are an ageing generation and modern youf are
pussies until you hook em, then they may grow a pair.

So a few prestige gatherings in high profile venues with try it out
options running alongside wouldn't go amiss.

If you want more take up that is.
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Originally posted by G.R.F.


But the question posed was getting new blood, and you don't do that in
the winter, they (potential sailors) aint even looking.

I'm not saying don't have winter events for the tin bath in front of coal
fire brigade, but y'all are an ageing generation and modern youf are
pussies until you hook em, then they may grow a pair.


If you want more take up that is.

And the only evidence against this is of course the big number of teenagers training all through the winter as part of the zone squads.  Apart from that I'm sure you're spot on as ever.

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Well new blood in my view is proper grown ups with disposable income
that want to sail. Not kids from schools, kids in squads, kids just being
kept off the streets. they nearly always bugger off and do something else
having been entirely brainwashed by the RYA or so traumatised to the point
they never want to go near a boat again.

Enthusiasts, and they inevitably inspire others, but free thinkers that take
stuff up like this, rarely respond well to the sort of authority that is still
prevalent within sailing.
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Well, 7th-8th August is the swanage bay regatta. All dinghies and cats are
welcome.
There's a summer handicap event for you all. I genuinely would be well
chuffed if a load of you turn up. I'm sure I could stump up some Y&Y forum
members prizes for the event. First forum member, furthest travelled,
something like that.
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Originally posted by Doug.H

Well, 7th-8th August is the swanage bay regatta. All dinghies and cats are
welcome.
There's a summer handicap event for you all. I genuinely would be well
chuffed if a load of you turn up. I'm sure I could stump up some Y&Y forum
members prizes for the event. First forum member, furthest travelled,
something like that.

I maybe up for a bit of that Doug, I wil just try and clear it with the wife as its my daughters birthday on the 9th!  If i can get a pass i will be there.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Steve411 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Feb 10 at 9:35am
Blimey Russ, first you say you're going to have to virtually give up sailing due to the impending birth of your baby, now you're doing more than ever. Impressive stuff.
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Originally posted by Steve411

Blimey Russ, first you say you're going to have to virtually give up sailing due to the impending birth of your baby, now you're doing more than ever. Impressive stuff.

 

Its funny you should say that Steve, I have been told i won't be going to the Swanage regatta, "in fact I'm almost taking the piss"  It must be her Hormones, she has become completely unreasonable.

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Originally posted by G.R.F.

Well new blood in my view is proper grown ups with
disposable income
that want to sail. Not kids from schools, kids in squads, kids just being
kept off the streets. they nearly always bugger off and do something else
having been entirely brainwashed by the RYA or so traumatised to the
point
they never want to go near a boat again.

Enthusiasts, and they inevitably inspire others, but free thinkers that take
stuff up like this, rarely respond well to the sort of authority that is still
prevalent within sailing.


You've hit the nail on the head as you so often do!

Clearly a new topic is needed here. such as 'Has the RYA helped kill Club
Class Racing'

I agree that it is the grown ups who should have disposable income who
should be targeted. Unfortunately today their disposable income has
been mortgaged on buying squad boats the the apparently necessary
appendages such as four wheel drive gas guzzling tanks to tow the
double trailer for dinghy and parental RIB. At the end of this period of
often parental bullying they give up sailing for life.

Unfortunately if it had not been for the travelling RYA scout/coach, trying
to protect and justify his job, suggesting to the innocent parents that
their average Katie/Johnny could become a Shirley/Ben, then all the well
intended money would not have been wasted. Thus instead of destroying
thier children's love of friendly Club sailing, the whole family could be
enjoying the sport at the Club leaving more disposable income for the
parents to spent enjoying the sport after the kids had left.

Just part of a much bigger subject!
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