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devotiluca
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Topic: GRF's rig schoolPosted: 24 Nov 09 at 6:33pm |
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well , why limiting you guys to make best use of your knowkedge and play
around with battens.....if that is fun for you.... ,as well as rake
daggerboard position , mast position etc......rig for your info is so soft that it will require more time spent in the gym, than on the keyboard....never met you in person , but does not seem you are not spending much time in the gym..being always on the keyboard..i am fat at present .... , so too
heavy...but you guys would struggle to get the main sheeted if my perception of your fitness level is correct....so now that you have seen the light just put in every posting you do D-one on order...and bash some other yards boat....just to make friends...so that they can help the electrical supply of london too..
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G.R.F.
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Posted: 24 Nov 09 at 6:21pm |
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OK Luca - I give in.
It's a wonderful boat. I love it, in fact I can't wait to have it's baby.. (rig that is when you build it) There Happy? As you say, what does it matter, it's a one design anyway, everybody races on the same thing. (Would have been the best answer) |
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devotiluca
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Posted: 24 Nov 09 at 6:08pm |
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well master of rig design.....shape is a combination of batten stiffnesses
and broadseeming ..this sails have quite a bit of that different to surf sails....etc and d one flying shape is quite right.....so by putting tapered battens you would end up mooving draft forward .....making the sail less efficient....but what is the point in discussing .....yuo have never sailed the d one ........ , what obliges me to waist my time reading your
postings is your continuos effort in denigrating what we have done with passion , being yourself so competent in marketing you do not need any explanation on the fact that what you are doing is some sort of diffamatory campaign...well good luck with that.... . at times it
backfires....and considering that we are promoting a new racing format with the d one just fun oriented , we will allow you to put any battens you want in the sails ,so maybe you could make good use of your knowledge and win some races for a change ..that hough will stop you posting against the d one for those hours...if yours and turnturtles postings against my little baby could be summed up .....and transformed into positive energy....well they could generate enough electricity to supply london for a while
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mongrel
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Posted: 24 Nov 09 at 5:52pm |
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My guess is the main sail isn't twisting as there's probably relatively little load on it, the majority will be in the kite. The assy's I've sailed you need to knock off quite a bit of kicker for downwind, to prevent the main hooking when the load goes out of it, when the spinaker starts pulling. Edited by mongrel |
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G.R.F.
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Posted: 24 Nov 09 at 5:14pm |
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Can I comment on this a bit without upsetting you, it kind of illustrates the point I was trying to get across about the way sails ought to twist but don't seem to? I know it's just a snapshot in time, I also realise the apparent wind vector must be quite forward, but.... Fantastic shot by the way, looks almost unreal. |
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asterix
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Posted: 24 Nov 09 at 5:10pm |
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blaze720
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Posted: 24 Nov 09 at 5:07pm |
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The mystery is how he manages to find enough time away from a keyboard to fit any actual sailing in!
Keyboard 'fluency' is often considered an after dark activity. |
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G.R.F.
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Posted: 24 Nov 09 at 5:01pm |
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Well my fine fettled soft batten friend, soft they may be but they'd sure as
hell better be tapered, no way you can talk your way out of that one with an unstayed rig. In fact tapered and with vario carbon sleeved tuning rods to adjust the flow point - at that price. And whilst you're at it, if you're using those monkeys at Hyde, you'd better check you can even get the battens out, the last new sail I bought from them they'd sewn in the damn rocket tensionisers we windsurfers designed for your sorry dinghy sailing asses precisely to be able to tension and adjust battens, not as a fixed batten sewing aid. Edited by G.R.F. |
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devotiluca
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Posted: 24 Nov 09 at 4:53pm |
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came back from the yacht club and checked if any remarks had come from
the rig expert grf and it did not take long , on battens he managed to
beat himself....on a fulll battened rig batten stiffnesses depend on the loads they are subject to .so on a sitting out boat where loads are small you need soft battens otherwise no decent sail shape nor even the chance to hoist the sail...having the sail quite a fair bit of luffcurve stiff battens would make it basically impossible to hoist because you would need to bend the mast while hoisting...so the battens that we have for the d one are just the ideal stiffness.... it will though be a pleasure to see grf at queen mary coming
to check our battens .....he might have the chance to see a jolly nice boat.... , ciaooo
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I luv Wight
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Posted: 24 Nov 09 at 4:38pm |
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With a bit of intelligent stringing, you can make a wibbly stick keep straight under monster loadings ( the mast doesn't bend much either
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