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    Posted: 03 Nov 09 at 4:08pm

Originally posted by timeintheboat

Another interesting boat..how does it draw?

Is this a K6 for those with no friends?

It could do with a kite IMHO.


 

This is a K6 for those with no friends ..... Or perhaps rather an RS700 for old farts

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I appreciate that that isn't legal on a K6, but it's always puzzled me that more keelboats don't use trapezes.

Trapezing is basically more comfortable and less demanding than hiking, the only proviso being that a certain agility is required on lively dinghies to get in and out on gusty days, but a keelboat will give plenty of time and the consequences of a tea-bagging won't include a capsize. Wasn't it Paul Elvstrom who said that he couldn't understand why the Star (or was it F15?) didn't use a trapeze?

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The Tempest has a trapeze, I believe, and never exactly caught the world on fire...and Proctor tried a big brother keelboat for the Osprey which I think had one, and never took off at all. I suspect that for the majority, putting lead under a boat is an alternative to a balancing act.
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Yes, the Tempest, but you still have to be huge and strong to crew a Tempest competitively!

But in boats like the F15/K6 if you're using the lead during racing you aren't fast - they need to be sailed upright (I believe Ian Barker's F15 world champ crew was 6'6" and 18 stone to achieve this!). So they could be sailed more comfortably if crews could trapeze.

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I've been racing mostly IC/505 but at 50 I bought this K6 just to have fun with. Trapezing with the assy up I can get away with murder where I would go swimming in an MPS/RS700 in notime, and the water in Sweden is cold. As you stated, faster and more comfortable upwind.

I did som racing 15 years ago on Libras. 40 foot keelboats with 12 guys on trapeze with a 20 foot wingspan. There are actually quite a few keelboats sailed on the lakes in the Alps with trapeze, the Libera being the most extreme 

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I see that the first production K1 has been produced and is at the Boat Show -

http://www.k1sailing.com/index.html
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Some German Lake sailors seem to be fitting trapezes to their K6's, They claim it makes the boat really good upwind and faster down wind in a blow...

Not class legal in UK but would like to try it!

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Trapezing a keelboat is such an obvious possibility I'm amazed it's not common.

Why hike your knees off when you have such a nice stable platform to trapeze that even your granny could do it?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Merlinboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Jun 10 at 7:26pm
Well the K1 that was delivered to a member at Tewkesbury seems to be going well.  Its a fantastic looking boat!
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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Trapezing a keelboat is such an obvious possibility I'm amazed it's not common.

Why hike your knees off when you have such a nice stable platform to trapeze that even your granny could do it?

I took out a 50 yo mate in my K6 in a 20-25 knots breeze. He had hardly ever sailed before and we had a blast with him on the trapeze. He loved it (but we didn't hoist the gennaker though). Doing the same thing with as an example a 505 would not work at all.

As you stated there are a lot of benefits with using trapezes on a sports boat and hardly any disadvantages at all.

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