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laser193713 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 13 May 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 889 |
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we have horn cleats on our 1/4 tonner for the jib sheets, works fine and is probably faster than cam cleats! enough turns on the winch and you can lock them off with a single wrap round the cleats. If we needed too we would have changed to cam cleats by now, for a dinghy cam cleats will be easier and for a few quid on ebay you can pick up a couple of decent ones so why not change?
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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I did a long distance race in a vintage dinghy (Pisces). I was expected to raise and lower the spinnaker using a horn cleat.
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redback ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502 |
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I believe it was Paul Elvstrom who invented the cam cleat and he used it in the 1948 Olympics sailing the single handed dinghy which was the Firefly. He was the only competitor to use them for the jib sheet and he used a "horn cleat" for the main. Perhaps that's why he won or was it because he was the only sailor to sit over the side of the boat and use toe straps? Doubtless the other competitors sat upright in flannel trousers and a blazer, possibly with a straw hat called a "boater". He was a cad!
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MerlinMags ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Mar 04 Location: UK, Guildford Online Status: Offline Posts: 589 |
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I dont think horn cleats would have EVER been used for sheets in a dinghy. Prior to the availability of cam cleats, sailors would have just held onto a jib sheet.
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Graham T ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 123 |
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It only needs to ratchet one way - you just take a couple
of turns in the right direction and pull.... When you tack just let it go and wrap the new sheet in the same direction. |
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Osprey 55 "Tebutinnang"
Osprey 1245 "Two Bob Bit" Miracle 1358 "Thumper" |
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Okapi ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Sep 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 16 |
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Now a snubbing winch is a good idea, I have room for one on the centreboard casing on the forward thwart. That should keep him busy with a sheet to pull, now I gotta find a small one which hopefully has a reversible ratchet, hopefully it clicks... these X-boxes have not won the day yet!
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Although the Okapi bears striped markings reminiscent of the zebra, it is most closely related to the giraffe.
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zailor ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 09 Location: Penparc Online Status: Offline Posts: 249 |
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RS Feva Jib Haliards thats the only boat I have found them on (and owned) |
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Garry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 536 |
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All the bosuns I've sailed have had cam cleats for the jib sheets. Most keelboats now have self tailing winches, I haven't seen a cleat used for sheets in years. Garry |
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Lukepiewalker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 May 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1341 |
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Still to be found on Main Halyards, but that's about it.
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Ex-National 12 3253 "Seawitch" Ex-National 12 2961 "Curved Air" Ex-Mirror 59096 "Voodoo Chile" |
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Graham T ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 123 |
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I am just starting a restoration project on a 1957 Osprey -
it is in original layout and has bronze horn cleats for most things but not the sheets..... In fact it has no sheet cleats at all, just a huge snubbing winch mounted on the centre of the thwart which will probably cause the crew some pain if they come in from the trapeze too fast! As far as I am aware horn cleats should never be and have never been used for sheets in a dinghy. Get some cam cleats or as they used to just hold the sheets. |
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Osprey 55 "Tebutinnang"
Osprey 1245 "Two Bob Bit" Miracle 1358 "Thumper" |
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