Open cleat

   Horn cleats shouldn't really be in use for sheets even on keel boats either I'd have thought, for pretty much the same reason. Smaller ones will use cam cleats larger ones combinations of winches and clutches, yes?

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alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Open cleat Posted: 21 Oct 09 at 10:10am
	Horn cleats shouldn't really be in use for sheets even on keel boats either I'd have thought, for pretty much the same reason. Smaller ones will use cam cleats larger ones combinations of winches and clutches, yes?
	-_ Al

winging it Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958	Post Options Post Reply Quote winging it Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 09 at 10:02am
	Buy cam cleats. If you can't release the jib quickly enough you could well end up capsized and your son could end up cold, wet and frightened. There is nothing to be learned by using horn cleats; very few boats make use of them, even the cvrda use new fangled stuff these days. Get your son familiar with things he is most likely to encounter in the near future. The only reason why securing an open cleat is taught in the RYA syllabus is because it demonstrates how to secure a boat to a mooring. It has no place being used for jib sheets. Get some from ebay!
	the same, but different...

Okapi Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 28 Sep 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 16	Post Options Post Reply Quote Okapi Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 9:00pm
	Thanks Roy, 'spend my way out', has never been an option I am keen to follow, I know and respect where you are coming from though. The plan is to progress to keel boats in the future, I'm more worried about skill more than convenience. Edited by Okapi
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Roy Race Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 15 Aug 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 275	Post Options Post Reply Quote Roy Race Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 8:51pm
	I think the last time anyone used horn cleats for jib sheets was in about 1940. It's safer to be able to release the sheets in a hurry if you're hit by a gust, so just put your hand in your pocket and get some proper modern cam cleats. It'll make the whole experience more enjoyable if your equipment works and your son will be more likely to want to carry on sailing.

Okapi Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 28 Sep 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 16	Post Options Post Reply Quote Okapi Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 09 at 8:25pm
	In ye' days of olde I guess there were no cam cleats only open (horn) cleats. Is it now the case that no one, or not many folk use open cleats for things like Jib sheets on a dinghy? The reason I ask is I need to keep my 10 year old son busy, whilst he learns what little I know!
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