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    Posted: 20 Oct 07 at 2:20am

fair point chris.

but the 12 is about fun and silliness not rules and tecnicality

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Yeah, I was tongue in cheek......but as we all know there's always rules, it's just a matter of how many.
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He said stupid rules though..............
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they're starting to look like UK cherubs now!

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Originally posted by stuarthop

they're starting to look like UK cherubs now!


Thats what I was thinking!


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Originally posted by Ross

Originally posted by Smight at BBSC

Looks preety kl. The racks definatly help the asthetics of the boat if nothing else   More info http://www.sail-world.com/cruising/index.cfm?rd=n&SEID=& amp; amp; amp; amp;SRSID=&eid=&pid=&nid=38128


Not true, think of all the energy that the boat absorbs when hitting spray at speed. imagine trying to run a race with people throwing buckets of water at you! With racks theres less hull for spray to hit.

That 12 looks NUTS.

Ross mate read what i said. "if nothing else" that doesn't mean to say they don't do anything or effect the way the boat sails

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Lol Hoppy I know - so ya know what we need then!!  (huh humm,  t-foils, hum hufff hum!!)

ps - we may have just a handful of rules - but one is, 12ft long on the water line!!  any longer and its just a pig

Other silly ones are restricted length on wheelie bars - but I NEED to get further back scottie!!! Oh and mi hull weight of 45kg - lame, we need to adopt the R class way of thinking, none!! so hull weight of about 30kg - schweeeet!

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yeah t-foils ARE the way forwards

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I do admire the NZ & aussie 12s , but, I just don't think they will ever get going as a class in the UK, I would like to be proved wrong.

I think most sailors that want to sail high performance boats don't want to have to be swapping rigs, tipping boats over, have fixed bow sprits etc..  Also I don't think ther're are many clubs that would welcome a fleet of boats taking up boat park space tipping over to rig up, and being effectively 24ft long.  I think that the UK Cherub is a better boat for the way sailing is over here.

However, in the right conditions they do look great fun to sail, let alone race.

That new NZ skiff hull looks a bit like the old Howlett 1b 14 from the early 90s!  Look closely even the trapeze harnesses are the same



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I beg to differ about the UK 12ft skiff class. Look at www.12footskiff.com

We have really only been established for a year, a month after the first set of Ozzy boats came out of the containers we had our nationals with 7 boats.

One other 12's just found a new home, more boats are being shipped over in the new year, and the demand for second hand boats is truely there - just dont have the number of 2nd hand boats to keep up with that demand!

You'd be surprised about just how many clubs welcome us. Yes we tip on our sides (like cherubs) and have a fixed pole, but if we are tite for space we all roll over inbetween each other and its a load of cadets and mirrors which take up all the space!!

ps, ive only had one occasion when I had the wrong rig up - alot more wind blew in than expected, but racing was abandoned so wasnt overly concerning, jus sail it free! hehe!

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