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    Posted: 18 Oct 07 at 7:00pm
I do have to argree with merlinboy b14s just have somthing about them
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Originally posted by combat wombat

[QUOTE=Guests]5000 has a gay spinny system that should only be used on crazy boats like 18 foot skiffs [QUOTE]

I think you'll find that chutes are "gay" - as they are easier and only for pansies.  real men sail boats where you have to gather the kite by hand. 

 

Only a B14 sailor could say something like that!!   

We could say something similar about hiking, but i wont take the piss because i love b14's

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Go for the 9er mate just a better boat
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here, there and everywhere

just not where i mainly sail right now, i do want the back of the boat at the end of the day...

most likely end up being datchet /grafham and the south coast



 

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Where are you going to sail it?
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[QUOTE=Guests]5000 has a gay spinny system that should only be used on crazy boats like 18 foot skiffs [QUOTE]

I think you'll find that chutes are "gay" - as they are easier and only for pansies.  real men sail boats where you have to gather the kite by hand. 



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Originally posted by Merlinboy

Crew weight isnt a problem for 9er either and you can pick an old one up cheap now!

 

Cheap crew how crass

 

Get a decent one ! , when did they start charging



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The 49er has a bendy mast that makes life a lot easier than the 5000. It has wings rather than racks so no hole to fall through. The spinnaker system is way, way better than the 5k. It's lighter and faster. Spares are easy to find. The jib self-tacks.

The L5k is cheap, slightly more stable and comparatively more solid.

Get a 49er, if only because the 5000's spinnaker launch/recovery is so awkward.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Guests Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Oct 07 at 8:36pm
no matter how you look at it a 49er is a much better designed boat than the 5000 ( and thats coming from a 5000 sailor) the 5000 has a gay spinny system that should only be used on crazy boats like 18 foot skiffs and is is pretty heavy with outdated rigging and old materials used to build it, good luck finding a new mast if you snap the one u got!

only buy a 5000 if your on a budget like me, the only reserve i got that 49er sailing doesnt work as well when sailing with different crews because of the mainsheet and the tippy factor.

There are loads of obvious advantages to going for a 49er so i cant be bothered to list them all.
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Hi Ratface

next season -  depends what you want to do...  blast around, have fun and do some racing; or seriously campaign a boat(which also can be fun!). In the latter case the 49er is probably best - although there are 5000 'enthusiasts' (I included) - there are 5000 events and TASA events as well though probably not as well attended as 49er events.  if new to twin-wire boats, remember it'll take you probably at least 1 season to become competative.

Comparison of the 2 - many will 'dis'the older  and heavy 5000, but there 's  still a lot going for it. Fairly stable, still fast and fun, and relatively cheap compared to similar craft.

The main thing you need to consider is cost and ability.  How skilled you/crew are in twin wiring etc... I boat a 5000 start of this  season  - have had fun so far but definitely don't sail to handicap. but then again I don't really care- bought it primarily for  blasting around rather than racing.  The 49er I believe is a lot more powerful (less forgiving, I've heard some say?) than the 5000 so that's worth bearing in mind.

Also what you're willing to pay.  i.e. there was a  5000 advertised on boatsandoutboards this week for £1000-1500.  For a really good boat you pay max £2500.  49-ers are  considerably more expensive.

On a practical side, if going for 5000 - there's an 8metre Alumium mast (old boat!) with a  fairly large main -  re-righting from a  capasize requires a good bit of effort! 

also - you're aren;t partically heavy - worth checking out the class websites for  weight ranges/settings.

Definitely  try out both if you can.

All the best.

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