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    Posted: 16 Oct 07 at 10:43am

Thanks to mike and TT. I had written quite a lengthy reply but then accidentally deleted it and couldn't be arsed to type it all back in. In brief:

700/MPS is a medium/long term plan. Would be the only one in Ireland so not too bothered with class racing. 700s are about a grand cheaper for same age so more tempting. Having sailed 20' assy cats for three years (I'm pretty bold downwind) and trapeze-helmed for seven I have everything needed except agility and fitness. And currently the readies to go and buy one in addition to the Hurri.

Trouble is that by the time I'm ready to do the 700/MPS thing my daughter (currently 3 and a half) will probably be bending my ear about getting a ride. So may have to do something semi-sensible like a Vago.

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English Dave:

regards to speed of rigging, the 600 is insanely quick to rig, once youve marked where the rig tension should be pull the sail up clip it to the boom pull the tension on go sailing. Ive started tweaking with the diamonds though now i can keep the big white thing over the little white thing but i dont think it makes much difference, whack em on when its light, take the tension off if your getting scared (diamonds, not rig tension), thats all i do.
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I'll be there though - in the 4000.  New jib and new gennaker and 1 more year of experience.  Hopefully Alex will be competing rather than blasting up and down the reservior!  Are the other 4000s going to be there?
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Originally posted by turnturtle

.  The Eastbourne chaps who defected from 700s

Are you talking about andy and alex? They came to bbsc for the winter series last year. Hopefully they're coming this year but i doubt they will let me near there mustos

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Originally posted by turnturtle

Jackie Stewart type of ethos: the harder I practice, the luckier I get! 

Wasn't that Gary Player?

Actually TT I'm glad I caught you cos there's something I've been meaning to ask and you have sort of answered it in your post.

My Hurricane is a great beast but she's heavy and cannot be single handed. I am often envious of the Laser sailors at Ballyholme who stop off on their way home, sail for 40 minutes and then go in for tea. Part of that is that it is so quick to rig and de-rig. But I don't want a Laser. How do the MPS and RS700 compare in terms of ease of rigging? I have a sort of plan to get one or the other before too long for those days when I can't get a crew and the 700's are cheaper second hand (not too worried about fleet racing or resale in Northern Ireland). But speed of rigging will be important too. I want to arrive, throw the main-up and launch without having to waste time adjusting spreaders and lowers all the time. Any advice?



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The Blaze is deceptive from those pictures though the cockpit is quite deep and the boom quite high. The only time I get cramped (6ft 1) is in the really light stuff when you need to get way forward.

Advice as always, try before you buy! I am sure you will find a Blazer willing to give you a go.

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And the Blaze:
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Or, if you have a bit more wind about, a much more enjoyable boat:
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Try this:

Helm is 6ft 6ins tall, folding that length into any boat in light winds is not always easy!
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