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    Posted: 11 Oct 07 at 1:33pm
I think that if people actually took time to look at the luff curve cut into sails then they would stand much more of a chance of being able to set up the mast to match! It's one thing bending a mast, but bending it the right amount in the right place is where the challenge lies. 
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Nothing wrong with that setup, doesn't matter what it looked like, it still went quickly to windward!
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Nothing wrong with it??!! It looks like a sack of sh*t.

 

Thats horrible
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Originally posted by Roy Race

Whilst on the subject of bent masts, although not quite as extreme as the previous one, was there ever a more perfect example of a mast which needs straightening up to match the sail?

12 sails tend to be cut pretty full to get the boats downwind and so need to apply quite some bend to get them sorted for upwind.

That boat looks well sorted to me ...

Edit: Also that looks like an old rules main that has a lot of batten poke on the lower batten; the new rules fix thatt so you don't get that crease ...



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Originally posted by Roy Race

Originally posted by kanga

Taken at Hyeres Olympic Week in 2005, crazy!

I was in that race! It was deeply unpleasant. The actual bottom of our centreboard came out of the water more than once which was interesting as the boat obviously just slews off sideways for a bit until it lands again! That's Johan Molund's boat with the eagle on the main in a clip from an awesome video that was on the Hyeres website. In fact one of my all-time favourite sailing vids. It would be great if someone still had a copy saved somewhere.

In my humble opinion one of the most beautiful sights in sailing is a 470 being hammered upwind to Olympic standard in 25 knots of wind. They're really awesome boats in the big breezes.

 

..Here's the video,

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/sailing+/video/x 13f4_dinghies-a-go-go_sport

 they do look fantastic

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Edit: Also that looks like an old rules main that has a lot of batten poke on the lower batten; the new rules fix thatt so you don't get that crease ...



Rick is quite right. I think that was one of the Tim Rush prototype 12 sails, which had more than the usual amount of bottom batten poke. Gave a bit of free area along with that nasty crease.
Glad they sorted the rules out a little, but nowhere near far enough if you ask me!
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I was once told that when sailing a 12 it's not what your sail looks like but how fast it makes you go  Especially downwind

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Originally posted by Guest#260

That boat looks well sorted to me ...

 

and me if it was a force 6.

Surely it needs a couple of turns straighter on the spreaders and a nudge of whatever they use at deck level to get rid of the crease.  Bottom batten poke doesn't automatically mean a great big crease; lots of boats have bottom battens which stick out more than the one above without the sail looking like this.

 

 



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Originally posted by GK.LaserII

..Here's the video,

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/sailing+/video/x 13f4_dinghies-a-go-go_sport

 they do look fantastic

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Originally posted by Roy Race

Originally posted by Guest#260

That boat looks well sorted to me ...

 lots of boats have bottom battens which stick out more than the one above without the sail looking like this.



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