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    Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 8:27pm
Please help!  My son who is nearly 17 has (unbeknown to me) bought a share in a Hurley (whatever that is) with a 16 year old friend who sails a lot, but my son has only been once.  I know nothing about sailing and am concerned about the whole thing but don't want to put him off completely.

Is it safe for two 16 year olds to go out in a yacht on the sea on their own?

Should he have some sailing lessons urgently?

What about insurance?  How much does it cost and what should it cover?

Any other advice/warnings you can give me would be gratefully received!

Many thanks !
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The link should drop you on to the page for the hurley boats which will tell you about the boat itself http://www.hurleyownersassociation.co.uk/pages/h22.htm

The owner assocation should be able to help put your mind at rest on some of the questions.

Hope this helps.
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Two KNOWLEDGEABLE and EXPERIENCED 16yr olds would be OK in a yacht. I wouldn't want to see two inexperienced adults in a yacht out to sea, either!

However, maybe this is a very small yacht. Maybe they will be racing in a sheltered harbour only when there is rescue boat cover? That would be fine.

People do not need insurance to sail, but the boats do. That way the owner/helm is covered when they break the boat, break someone elses boat, or injure a swimmer.

This seems to be the Hurley website:
http://www.hurleyownersassociation.co.uk/pages/h18.htm
They aren't massive yachts.
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Hello!

Thanks for replying and for the advice.

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Originally posted by Bluebell

Should he have some sailing lessons urgently?

Yes. For one thing, if his experienced friend falls overboard (and that can happen), your son needs to know how to recover him.

 
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How do a 16 and a 17 yr old afford to buy a whole yacht for goodness sake??!!!  Clearly wealthy beyond the means of honest labour or the yacht is a mouldering death-trap.

Tempted to quote Arthur Ransom:

"better drowned than duffers, if not duffers, won't drown" ....

but a 22 ft yacht of dubious condition out on the sea is a different order of thing to a lead keeled dinghy on coniston water and though sailing it will probably be no big problem it's the avoiding other things and people that needs some knowledge.

Suggest they take a 3rd person who also knows what they're doing at least.
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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

Originally posted by Bluebell

Should he have some sailing lessons urgently?

Yes. For one thing, if his experienced friend falls overboard (and that can happen), your son needs to know how to recover him.

 



Agreed - or take a third person who knows what they're doing along with them, as also suggested. 

Basically, you don't ever want somebody who is an inexperienced sailor on their own 
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How does a 16 year old buy a share in  a yacht without his dad knowing?

Must have a serious paper round ...



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Originally posted by NickA

but a 22 ft yacht of dubious condition out on the sea is a different order of thing to a lead keeled dinghy on coniston water and though sailing it will probably be no big problem it's the avoiding other things and people that needs some knowledge.



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The main thing to remember is that they are about a hundred times safer in a boat than they would be in a car at that age...

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