Nationals Attendance

   On the Attendance table would it be possible to add a few more sorting columns?

Number of crew
Kite - Symmetric/Asymmetric/None
Number of trapeze
Keel - Yes/No
Alex
Anything else?

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AlexM Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 10 Jan 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 857	Post Options Post Reply Quote AlexM Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Nationals Attendance Posted: 14 Aug 09 at 3:25pm
	On the Attendance table would it be possible to add a few more sorting columns? Number of crew Kite - Symmetric/Asymmetric/None Number of trapeze Keel - Yes/No Alex Anything else?

JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 5:07pm
	There are other reasons too... Trapeze boats can be pretty frustrating on shift and lull prone inland waters, most especially smaller and treebound venues rather than places like Grafham or Kielder. And there are an amazing number of such clubs... Personally I have more or less given up dangling on wires because I seem to get cramp in my calves frequently... "Time to tack" "Sorry, can't get off the wire until my leg starts working again" Another factor for the more mature sailor is that I think its easier to sail a boat at 7/8s (looking to make up the other 1/8 on superior tactics and wind spotting) if you're sitting on the side rather than dangling on a wire. Mind you I prefer to perch on a plank... Its interesting though the turnouts that supposedly unfashionale classes get... 26 National 18s this week, 58 Miracles for goodness sake... Do we have a single person on the forum that sails either class, yet they are big enough to be significant. It just goes to show how flawed, even pointless it is to attempt to judge popularity by noise on the net.

Guests Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Guest Group	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guests Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 11:04am
	I genuinely believe part of it is a fear of falling in from higher up. That and the fact that a 6ft male is so much more useful on the trapeze than a 5'4" woman, so you limit the number of potential sailors.

Guest Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guest Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 11:00am
	Great shot of the Squibs. What always surprizes me when I look at the table is how unpopular trapezing is ... given that hiking is tiresome why do people not want to trapeze more if their water is big enough ....?

Gerard Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 27	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gerard Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 13 Aug 09 at 10:50am
	Squibs not on the top now, but still the highest number at a National Championship for a two person boat - dinghy or keelboat! If you want to see a picture, see this months Y & Y , great shot of one of the many starts with 108 boats. Edited by Gerard

Jon711 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 04 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 465	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jon711 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Aug 09 at 1:56pm
	Having been one of the AOD's for the Lowestoft nationals last year, it must also be pointed out the quality of sailors throughout the Squib fleet. It was a pleasure to watch.....

alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Aug 09 at 11:27am
	Are dinghies doing anything wrong as such though compared to small keelboats? I'm betting, and this can probably be backed up by going through the master list and splitting it into various sections (dinghies, small keelboats (2-4 person), large keelboats, beach cats, bigger cats?) that dinghies + beach cats will make up by far and away the biggest total Nationals racing fleet. Little bit of looking at numbers (but not what I've just suggested: With 51 classes (out of 302 listed) reporting in, there have been, compared to 2008: 16 reporting a rise in attendence- average rise 13.625 boats 24 reporting a drop- average 11.958 2 reporting no change 9 that didn't hold or report a 2008 nationals
	-_ Al

Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Aug 09 at 10:30am
	Is the small keelboat market less diluted than the dinghy one? In other word, are there fewer to choose from, so more keen helms have gravitated to the one with the best racing? More power to the Squib, just trying to work out what dinghies are doing wrong?!
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Mark Jardine Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Admin Group Joined: 12 Mar 04 Location: Milford-on-Sea, United King Online Status: Offline Posts: 1028	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mark Jardine Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Aug 09 at 7:02am
	Very true Al, The XODs only have fleets at Parkstone, Lymington, Yarmouth, Cowes, Hamble and Itchenor. We've got the big advantage of not having to tow to get to Cowes Week - everyone sails there. 108 Squibs at the nationals really is an incredible achievement.

alstorer Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Aug 07 Location: Cambridge Online Status: Offline Posts: 2899	Post Options Post Reply Quote alstorer Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 07 Aug 09 at 6:57am
	But then XODs, Raters and similar classic classes are also very much local classes, yes? The Squib does, on the other hand, have a bit of geographical spread. Also, having less boats built, even if the first ones are many decades old, must help improve the boats built:boats attending ratio?
	-_ Al