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rodney
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Topic: Devotti Single HanderPosted: 11 Jul 09 at 9:44pm |
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Whoops Doug, I should have mentioned that the boat that Sten is sailing has an older development mast which is much softer than the production mast. |
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rodney
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Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 9:40pm |
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The D-One mast is based, in pprinciple, on the carbon Finn mast so I have no concerns with this issue. The D-One mast is built to a very high spec to take the forces into account even in extreme conditions and is therefore highly unlikely to fail; unless, of course, it is bounced around heavily on the bottom somewhere like the Chichester Bar (ebbing tide, strong S-SW wind) where I would expect most masts to show their weaknesses |
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matbard
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Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 9:25pm |
Actually, all masts, even with shrouds, bend... The problem is the way they bend! The D-One has a mast mutuated (but not the same) from the Finn, with a winged profile and with an external mainsail halyard (this help mantaining the mast completely sealed to prevent complete inversion during capsizing). Upwind, it works like a Finn mast, with a nice bend afterward that helps the sail to depower: ![]() Downwind, here came the complications... The pulling force from the genny can cause the mast to bend forward and leeward, powering the main and causing at the extreme the mast to break. You can prevent this in two ways: putting shrouds on the mast or making the mast very stiff. In the first case you can make the mast softer and bendier, so you can control it with few tweaks; in the second you have to play with precise positioning of the halyards exits (that's why the final production D-One sports an higher genny head point and different profile for the asymmetric ) and with gadgets like vang, cunningham and traveller. Then more speed you achieve, more your apparent wind will shift toward bow and your mast will suffer less pressure. Edited by matbard |
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Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 9:09pm |
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Some other videos on YT, not sure they surfaced from searches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY8hyKcLcRU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-H7L2JHYLfw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9CLwk8NmSg Plus another one from SA editor witth an interview with Silvio Santoni (not Santino...), Italian Finn Master Champion, Star helmsmann and first D-One owner: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlcT4QfbYmk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q10VvwLU2UI Edited by matbard |
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Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 8:53pm |
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The more the boat accelerates the less I would have thought it an issue as it
will release the pressure on the mast. How it copes with a high speed pitchpole however, will be very interesting indeed. It will either be a big OOOPS or it will prove to be a very impressive mast indeed. |
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Rockhopper
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Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 8:48pm |
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Great video rodney and sten still looks like the mast goes along way over the bow i know when its blowing my vareo does the same thing but at least it has shrouds to stop it are they at all worried about it doing this ??? andy |
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italian laser s
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Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 7:59pm |
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today sailing , long upwind 15 to 20 knots , d one jps 7 to 8 knots plus upwind!!!than lighter 8 knots wind kite d one 10 to 12 knots. than wind up 12 knots d one 14 knots.......magical feeling , try yourself and than you will understand....now that forum will be more civilized , i will just sail ........ciao and come to torbole , aldo
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rodney
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Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 7:17pm |
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Hi Doug, Will this do for now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b5dDbzKVrU Please remember that the leach has been shortened by 10cms so boom is higher. Rodney |
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Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 6:49pm |
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Thanks mark. Much appreciated
D-one'ers Is there any chance you would be able to get some D-one tacking and gybing footage on camera and then on youtube or a similar site. I've seen the boat going in a straight line but it would be good to see several tacks in a row and several gybes in a row. Edited by Doug.H |
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Posted: 11 Jul 09 at 6:47pm |
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I've removed some of the handbags comments from this and the RS100
thread. Please keep comments on each of the designs to each of the
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Cheers Mark |
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