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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Its not Finn bashing, but it is calling out... The sport suffers too much from people making preposterous claims that don't stand up in the cold light of day, and it can only be a good thing to bring in a dose of reality. And 339 boats for the masters is pretty impressive, so it really doesn't need to have some nonsense claims added onto it... |
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G.R.F. ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 4028 |
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All this to-ing and fro-ing, does anybody know if they have actually
delivered any of these D1's yet? Ugly it may be, but if they happen to be available for immediate delivery it might do as a temporary stop gap until the RS gets finished, another summer is rushing by.. |
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brookesy ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 04 Mar 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 48 |
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Chris, your constant Finn bashing is becoming more boring than ever, and I do not think anyone really is surprised that the Laser Masters attracts more than the Finns. Your black cat really is blacker than our black cat. |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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It could be said that the "Bringing the fun back into sailing" tagline is pretty silly; the fun has never gone out of sailing. Why would we sail the boats we already sail, if it wasn't fun? Edited by Chris 249 |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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Certainly can't see any facts to back up the claim that the Finn Masters is
bigger than the Laser Masters. The Finn Masters Worlds, sailed in the heartland of Europe, got 229 entries, but the last couple of Laser worlds were RESTRICTED to 370 and 450 or so. The last Laser Masters reached the limit of 370 entries within 4 1/2 days of opening entry. The next Masters worlds will require pre- qualification and has a 450 boat (approx) limit. It looks like about 125 German sailors (Junior , Open and Master) turned up to one or more Finn events last year. We got the same number of Laser Masters to a single local regatta in my home town. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Got to be better than Brazilian RS200s... |
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tickler ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Jun 07 Location: Tunstead Milton Online Status: Offline Posts: 895 |
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It's nice that GRF agrees with me, last time he recommended my termination! Re Supernova and build issues, we do have one Hartley built boat which creaks a bit but its been doing that for 3 hard years (at least you can hear it coming!) but what fairly low volume boat does not? Even the mighty RS are not perfect.
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andymck ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 15 Dec 06 Location: Stamford Online Status: Offline Posts: 397 |
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Not mentioned the build issues then? |
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Mikey 14778 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Feb 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 298 |
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I'm sure you're right Tickler, but what are we supposed to do about it ? It's not like I can go back to my club and force the (huge) Solo and Flying Fifteen fleets to get active on this forum. And I'm not at all convinced that manufacturers 'see the big picture'. If I was a big manufacturer of Finns, I might well design something that looked like a Finn for the Noughties, without too much regard for what everyone else in the world was up to. I might then be a bit surprised that some unflattering comments came my way. The bottom line here is that we give our opinions as best we can and (hopefully) without bias, which is not something that the manufacturers can do. ![]() |
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winging it ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Mar 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3958 |
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I have to say that come the day I have to sit down in a boat (and it's coming fast!) the supernova would be my first choice. I don't think they have had a bad press on here; I think most people respect them, it's just that not many have sailed them - yet.
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the same, but different...
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