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mattskipper14 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 14 Aug 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 6 |
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MOOSE that is an insane idea but I also have lots of them!!!! try mirror gunter rig ,topper,heron gunter rig |
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Moose ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Aug 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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Hmm. I'll be on the lookout for Moth rigs then! Cheers Moose |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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If I could get a reasonable one at the right price an International Moth rig would be the perfect choice, but any medium sized singlehander... Perhaps a Solo would be easy to find as a starting point. |
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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Windsurfer rig, plentifull light and a choice of sizes. With mast foots you can
jimmy together and articulate to required angles if needed. Oh... and packs down small so when it all goes tits up you can paddle home easy. ![]() Edited by Jack Sparrow |
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Moose ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Aug 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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JimC: I had anticipated having to run about on a trampoline anyway, so smaller outriggers and a tramp seems to be the way forward? What sort of rig would you suggest with this? I'll have to get the book you mentioned - it sounds interesting!! Cheers Moose |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/garyd/ http://www.sailboatstogo.com/catalog/product.php?category=CA NOE_RIG A couple of ideas here...if you google the subject, you will find that almost everything has been tried... |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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English Dave ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Aug 06 Location: Northern Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 682 |
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Well that's really all the proof we need on the madness front. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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The reasons I suggest a smaller rig are:-
1) International Canoes go at insane speeds with a relatively small rig. You don't need big rags with a small slippy hull. 2) Loads on your beams and outriggers are more sensible Structurally your challenge is to deal with the load paths and work out how big they will be. Where are you going to sail the boat from. Sit in the central canoe hull or run about on a trampoline? This controls how much righting moment you will have and is a big influenced on rig size. What are your outer hulls and beams going to be? That is the other factor that dictates your rig. If you're going to have big outer hulls that are buoyant enough to support a substantial amount or even all of the displacement (like an Orma Tri in miniature) Then you need massive beams, but you can also have a big rig to support the power. With this setup you can sit in the middle and still have a fair sized rig, but if you're going to build two big outer hulls then it will be better as a catamaran and leave your current hull out of it. If you're going to have small outer hulls that are really little more than tip floats like a Flying boat then you have a (lot) less power available because you'll need to stop before the floats sink. Your alternatives here are to run about on a trampoline (like Bethwaite's HSP - see High Performance Sailing by Frank Bethwaite in your local library), in which case you can have a pretty big rig, but still plenty of beam power, or you can just sit in the middle, in which case the rig really needs to be pretty small, but the beams and floats don't need to be that substantial either... |
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Moose ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Aug 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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The OCSG seem to sy away from outriggers and biggish rigs though. I'll give it a try though. Hell, at this rate I might just buy a laser! |
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neilw ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 26 Jul 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 88 |
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why not contact the guys at the Open Canoe Sailing Group - http://www.ocsg.org.uk/
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