Single Hander/Double Hander

   You will either be overpowered single handing or under powered (and crowded) double handing. 
Having said which, I single hand a 3000 I originally bought to sail with the (now grown up) kids, it's a blast.  I did a couple of races at the 3000 Nationals one up (my crew was busy) and got about the same results as I got two up.   A few people have sailed topper buzzes single handed too.  I learnt to single hand trapeze on a laser 2 "fun".  

The Vago is sort of an option too, and a few hard core sailors compete in them single handed (often with a jury rigged self tacker on the jib) but they are a lot less stable than the 3k or the buzz, whilst being quite heavy and much slower too, and getting out on the trapeze is a leap of faith!  

A 3000 or a buzz, or an old laser 2 would be pretty cheap, Vagos coming down all the time (from £2500).   All doable single handed, but be prepared to find a crew or sit it out if the wind gets strong .... and you'd need to learn to trapeze in more than F2.5.

If you wanted to try a 3000 and live in the midlands, PM me and I'll arrange you a go.  A mate with a Vago might give you a sail too.

However, it sounds like you actually want a single hander with an extra seat,rather than a double hander you can solo, so the vario is (probably) all there is.  Get the tiny sail, start doing sit ups. 

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NickA Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784	Post Options Post Reply Quote NickA Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Single Hander/Double Hander Posted: 25 Feb 13 at 8:03pm
	You will either be overpowered single handing or under powered (and crowded) double handing. Having said which, I single hand a 3000 I originally bought to sail with the (now grown up) kids, it's a blast. I did a couple of races at the 3000 Nationals one up (my crew was busy) and got about the same results as I got two up. A few people have sailed topper buzzes single handed too. I learnt to single hand trapeze on a laser 2 "fun". The Vago is sort of an option too, and a few hard core sailors compete in them single handed (often with a jury rigged self tacker on the jib) but they are a lot less stable than the 3k or the buzz, whilst being quite heavy and much slower too, and getting out on the trapeze is a leap of faith! A 3000 or a buzz, or an old laser 2 would be pretty cheap, Vagos coming down all the time (from £2500). All doable single handed, but be prepared to find a crew or sit it out if the wind gets strong .... and you'd need to learn to trapeze in more than F2.5. If you wanted to try a 3000 and live in the midlands, PM me and I'll arrange you a go. A mate with a Vago might give you a sail too. However, it sounds like you actually want a single hander with an extra seat,rather than a double hander you can solo, so the vario is (probably) all there is. Get the tiny sail, start doing sit ups.
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bferry Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 01 Jun 09 Location: Malta Online Status: Offline Posts: 190	Post Options Post Reply Quote bferry Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 05 Feb 13 at 9:26am
	I've sailed my Vareo 2 up a number of times (2 adults of around 70-75kg and around 5'8) Its a real blast especially when the wind is up. My only comment with your weight (same as me) is that 70kg is a bit light for the Vareo unless you buy the storm sail. I find it can be a bit overwhelming in a force 4+ with the main sail. Otherwise its a great boat and provides a good learning platform especially when you get the genny flying. Edited by bferry - 05 Feb 13 at 9:29am
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Jack Sparrow Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jack Sparrow Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 29 Sep 12 at 2:53pm
	I think I'd look at a Streaker. http://www.yachtsandyachting.com/class/Streaker
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Rockhopper Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Nov 07 Location: Eastry Online Status: Offline Posts: 642	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rockhopper Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 29 Sep 12 at 8:50am
	I sailed my vareo a few times with an adult in it and it was ok a bit nose heavy going down wind apart from that it was fine
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dohertpk Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 28 Sep 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 172	Post Options Post Reply Quote dohertpk Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 12 at 9:18pm
	ah. Don't think my girlfriend counts as a 'youngster':) Thanks again!

SoggyBadger Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Oct 10 Location: The Wild Wood Online Status: Offline Posts: 552	Post Options Post Reply Quote SoggyBadger Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 12 at 9:14pm
	You might get away with taking a yougster out with you in a Vareo but I think it'd be too cramped at the front for an adult as the boom slopes downward and is pretty low at the front. Also i don't think that a single-hander with spinnaker would be a sensible choice for you at you current level of experience.
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dohertpk Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 28 Sep 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 172	Post Options Post Reply Quote dohertpk Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 12 at 9:03pm
	Thanks PeterG, I'll have a look at that.

PeterG Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 12 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 823	Post Options Post Reply Quote PeterG Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 12 at 8:56pm
	The RS Vareo was supposed to fit that bill, but I'm not sure anyone who has sailed one would agree (I never have, so don't take my word for it)
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dohertpk Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 28 Sep 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 172	Post Options Post Reply Quote dohertpk Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 12 at 8:27pm
	Thanks a mil for the feedback. So I guess what I'm looking for is an exciting but manageable single hander which has space for the occasional passenger...? Again, any suggestions appreciated.

SoggyBadger Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 26 Oct 10 Location: The Wild Wood Online Status: Offline Posts: 552	Post Options Post Reply Quote SoggyBadger Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 28 Sep 12 at 8:20pm
	I wouldn't call a Vago tippy (I've got a background in Merlins) but they might be a bit on frisky side for you ATM, especially single-handed. Really though, racing dinghies are designed for a certain crew weight range which is a lot less than the difference between one or two occupants. My advice is to look for something which will suit you for the majority of your sailing rather than worry about the once-in-a-blue-moon scenario.
	Best wishes from deep in the woods SB