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Strawberry 
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 Topic: B14 v 59erPosted: 18 Aug 05 at 8:48pm |
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Great idea Tim. Let's start with the Fieball. Cool boat I'd say!
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timnoyce
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Posted: 18 Aug 05 at 3:50pm |
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"As a complete outsider to both classes, I can only say that given the
choice the B14 is inherently 'more cool' than a 59er... don't ask me to
justify it, it's totally subjective and not based on any scientific
rationale. "
Sounds a bit like the Top Gear "COOL WALL" to me! Perhaps we need a Y&Y Cool wall. I can think where i would like to stick quite a few! |
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boatshed
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Posted: 17 Aug 05 at 9:38pm |
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Good choice ! Post a message on the B14 web site www.b14.org and ask for a test sail.
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Andrewst
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Posted: 17 Aug 05 at 6:11pm |
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Many thanks for all the replies I over estimated our total crew weight by about 10kg and the boat will be sailed in open water (the sea) From reading seems as the B14 will be a good start Hoping to see/try a B14 soon |
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Chris Noble
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Posted: 16 Aug 05 at 3:13pm |
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one best left to the other thread, given the amount of feedback it created...
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boatshed
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Posted: 16 Aug 05 at 2:53pm |
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Just check out the PYs. The B14 sails off 880 whereas other speedy boats sail off not much faster PYs ( except the 49er) Int 14 850, Int Canoe 873, FD 879, 49er 747, 59er 905, Musto Skiff 875, rs 700 857, rs800 822. So, the B14, a 1985 design, can still mix it with some of the quickest monohulls around and not a trapeze wire in sight. I'd say take the B14 anytime. It may also qualify as being the best skiff but thats another topic...... |
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Chris Noble
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Posted: 16 Aug 05 at 1:00pm |
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there is a far bogger class for the B14 in the UK than 59er, agreed, the B14 class wont rival such as the 400 or 200 but its still pretty big in comparison to the 59er, its also a lot cheaper to get spares and parts, aswell as finding them more reasily available...
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sailor girl
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Posted: 16 Aug 05 at 9:18am |
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The B14 has a significant feel to it when your sailing.
I have never experienced the same kind of feelings in any other class of boat...Go for the B14! |
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boatshed
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Posted: 16 Aug 05 at 8:03am |
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Go for the B14. It will open up a whole new chapter of sailing to you. The B14 looks deceptively simple but has a sophisticated rig which helps account for the wide range of crew weights being competitive without all that weight equalisation stuff. Phil talks about "getting a feel for it" and this means "a very steep learning curve" But heh ! You want a challenge don't you ? And when you do, you will really understand the meaning of "have wings, will fly".
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Phil eltringham
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Posted: 15 Aug 05 at 10:17pm |
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weight on the B14 is not as big an issue as with other boats, because of the racks crew weight effectively self-equilises, and racing the boat becomes more about getting a feel for it. To put it another way, the weight range in the top five at this year's nationals was between 125 and 165kg i think, so you would not have a problem. Do not get me wrong, the 59er is a good boat, but because the class is new second hand boats are rare and are still close the the price of a new one. The 59er is probably better suited to smaller places, in part because its kite is smaller, and flatter enabling you to sail the reaches you get on club courses. Also the dagger rudder is a god send in shallow water (B14's can be converted). The B14's kite is, by modern designs, very big (29.2m2 compared to only 21 on an 800 for example) so sailing on other than deep reaches becomes a 2-sail affair. Having said that the B14 also has a large jib, and believe me 2-sail reaching in a B14 in breeze is about the most fun you can have in a boat!! |
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