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Dougal ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 09 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 556 |
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I still have it on VHS, and I still have the player to play it on! There was that great line - 'Taco Bell, lunch of champions'. Could that be Ben's secret? |
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gordon ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Sep 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1037 |
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Au contraire Little Monster the innovator has primacy over the guy who uses the innovation 40 or more years later.
Reead Elvstrms account of his first two medals. First to realise that sailing every day makes a difference. He won in 48 after retiring in the first race because he was, on port tack, within 3 boat lengths of a starboard boat. He won the last race because he took 4 rolls in his main, sailed the beats without a jib but hoisted jub on run and last two reaches. He never capsized and never filled his boat. he then went home and invented a hiking bench! |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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It is hard (an nonsensical) enough choosing between a yotty and a dinghy sailor, let alone adding standyuppy sailors into the mix. There aren't enough frames of reference - you may as well add Steve Redgrave to the list.
Oh, I did find that RIP is available again, though, to download, if you google it. Been impossible to find for years. Used to watch it several times a day when working at Wet and Windy in Bristol in the mid 90's |
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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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If Naish should be in there I would also add Bjorn Dunkerbeck. I seem to remember he won something like 10 world titles on the trot. GRF probably know the exact stats better than me.
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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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how many proper IYRU/ISAF sanctioned world championships for dinghy classes run with that small a number of boats ? wasn't there a saga a few years ago where the ISAF said if you weren't an International Class you couldn't have Continental or World Championships ....
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Little Monster ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Jan 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 46 |
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Elvestrom was a trailblazer getting his results at a time when he showed everybody how to be professional.
Ben gets his results against people who are already professional. Ben has to get the nod on that point alone.
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I voted for Ben 'cos I'm a patriotic type*, just how many Danes are there reading this forum anyhow?
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think you're right Al - i'm pretty sure its Kicking Strap
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I thought it was the Kicking Strap, not the hiking strap, that he supposedly (but possibly didn't) invent?
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I've never been sure where this idea that Elvstrom was the first person to use hiking straps comes from? They can clearly be seen in photos of 14's from when he was a baby, so unless he was even more precocious than previously thought, it can't be true. And, as Chris says, canoe sailors were hiking in the USA in the 1880's. Very unsporting too - just not cricket!
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