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Stefan Lloyd
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Topic: is dinghy sailing on the decline?Posted: 29 Jul 05 at 2:36pm |
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A well-known market research company provides the statisctics on sports and leisure participipation which a lot of organisations and companies use for planning. I won't name them, to protect the guilty, but I happen to have access to their subscriber-only reports. A while ago I looked in detail at the participation numbers for another sport (not sailing) and they were complete rubbish. Anybody who knew anything about the sport would know they had to be several times higher than reality. You couldn't fit the numbers they were reporting into the facilities available. It turned out that the statistics are mostly based on self-reported surveys, and basically people lie to make themselves sound more interesting. They are actually coach potatoes but say they are out doing this sport and that every month, when the reality is they tried it once 2 years ago. So don't take any of these statistics at face value. In 2002 McKinsey did a piece of "pro-bono" strategy work for the RYA (McKinsey are arguably the world's leading management consultancy company). They concluded sailing participation is in marked decline. I can't remember how they reached that view and the report no longer seems to be available on the RYA website. However if anyone has a handle on club memberships, it ought to be the RYA. This is because if you run an RYA-affiliated club, you are supposed to report annual membership numbers - at least that was the case when I used to be secretary of a small club.
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Matt Jackson
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Posted: 29 Jul 05 at 2:14pm |
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I heard a figure about 5 years ago that sailing was in the top three organised sports in terms of participant numbers. I think it came from Shroeders but as i don't know what they do I can't comment on it's validity. |
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Stefan Lloyd
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Posted: 29 Jul 05 at 9:30am |
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The attitude of sailors has nothing to do with it. The image of sailing comes from the general media, who (if they cover sailing at all) focus on big glamourous boats with well-funded PR operations which can feed news stories to journalists. Such boats are inevitably (and for the most part realistically) associated with the wealthy. Except for a couple of weeks every four years (guess which), dinghy sailing is of zero interest to the general media - and why should we expect otherwise? How much coverage of other participant sports do you see? |
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Posted: 29 Jul 05 at 8:18am |
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I think the only problem is that some sailors don't really want to open the sport up (not all of them) because they feel it should be an elite sport, and that may be where the attitude that all sailors are rich, snooty yachtsmen comes from! I personally don't think there is a decline in dinghy sailing - Chew is holding (wed, thur and today) Junior July and there are plenty of instructors, eager kids (some of whom have never sailed before) and parents who are willing to do anything to help!!! If that shows that dinghy sailing is declining, then I'd be surprised!!! |
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Excellent - keep up the good work... |
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It could be that racing is in decline, certainly class racing is. On the other hand I belong to 2 clubs - and they both have waiting lists.
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Perhaps the Topper and the Opptimist feeding into Laser route can be blamed for the people dropping out once they loose the support of parents. If you sail a single hander you have no option but to buy a boat and arrange transport. With double handers there is always the option of teaming up with someone older who has a car and boat and of sharing the costs. Some youths who have got used to using shiny new quality parent provided kit have difficulty in stepping into an old shed of a boat which is about all you can afford when just starting out on your own
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I've had a similar experience with parents of Topper sailers, makes you feel really sorry for their kids! Wonder if you could stick a rule 69 protest on out of line parents, lol. |
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First time we had an Oppie event at my club (we start at Topper age) I was *horrified* by the attitudes of many of the parents. The Oppie scene may produce Olympic sailors but I'm not at all convinced its good for the kids. Edited by JimC |
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