Port Starboard at windward mark

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   The guy obviously wasn't trying to claim an overlap. He just didn't understand the overiding nature of Fundamental Rule 10:

"When boats are on opposite tacks, a port-tack boat shall keep clear of a starboard-tack boat."
He was probably thinking that he had the right to call for water (a right that he could not possibly have had)
An overlap (for water) can be claimed at any mark - including the windward mark - provided both boats are on the same tack.
Rule 18 governs room at a mark or obstruction, however it does NOT apply when;

(a) at a starting mark surrounded by navigable water or at its anchor line from the time the boats are approaching them to start until they have passed them, or

(b) while the boats are on opposite tacks, either on a beat to windward or when the proper course for one of them, but not both, to round or pass the mark or obstruction is to tack.

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Jalani Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 03 May 05 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 164	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jalani Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Port Starboard at windward mark Posted: 02 Aug 05 at 9:26pm
	The guy obviously wasn't trying to claim an overlap. He just didn't understand the overiding nature of Fundamental Rule 10: "When boats are on opposite tacks, a port-tack boat shall keep clear of a starboard-tack boat." He was probably thinking that he had the right to call for water (a right that he could not possibly have had) An overlap (for water) can be claimed at any mark - including the windward mark - provided both boats are on the same tack. Rule 18 governs room at a mark or obstruction, however it does NOT apply when; (a) at a starting mark surrounded by navigable water or at its anchor line from the time the boats are approaching them to start until they have passed them, or (b) while the boats are on opposite tacks, either on a beat to windward or when the proper course for one of them, but not both, to round or pass the mark or obstruction is to tack.

david_e Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 02 Aug 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 12	Post Options Post Reply Quote david_e Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 02 Aug 05 at 8:13pm
	"The basic rule is that at a windward mark no overlap can be claimed" Is that the same for two boats on the same tack with an overlap within the two boats length?

redback Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Tunbridge Wells Online Status: Offline Posts: 1502	Post Options Post Reply Quote redback Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jul 05 at 11:58pm
	I have to bring this simple point up since it is clear that at least one good helm doesn't understand and had me rafted up at a recent event. The basic rule is that at a windward mark no overlap can be claimed. I was in the Medway Regatta and a Buzz from the Medway YC didn't understand this situation. The start was from the Wilsonian Club line to a club bouy 200m to windward. The line was long enough to lay the bouy on port. However such a short beat meant that many boats would be arriving at the same time, so I elected to start further down the line so that I could tack and approach the windward mark on starboard. The offending Buzz however arrived on port and expected every starboard tacker to give him room, I narrowly avoided cutting him in half but ended up locked to him as most of the fleet sailed away. Bad enough but when we had rounded the mark I put up the gennaker and he shouted across that I wouldn't be able to do my turns with a gennaker up. That was the final staw but as he was sailing from a different club I was not able to meet him afterwards and point out the error of his ways. Thank you for listening - I feel better now.