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Back to the original question - has anyone mentioned the OK? OP is probebly at the light end weight wise, but a high standard of (probebly middle aged male, I guess) competition, and a huge international circuit if travelling is wanted. Not sure the UK circuit can compete with the Laser, though?
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Originally posted by Contender443

Imagine you are in the market for a hiking singlehander would you buy Project X?


no- it will a.n.other unarig offering not a lot more than a laser, except maybe an ergonomic benefit.

Besides if Rooster gets his marketing demographic right, then he'll be targeting a lower weight range than the 100kg guy sailing on a light wind puddle in the middle of nowhereshire... which kinda puts me out of the picture.

Of course he could offer multiple rigs, and call it the same class, different rig configurations. He could then issue several MR PY numbers and MAKE the RYA give him several Experimental Numbers a year later... but I heard through the grapevine that this ain't such a great way to go, causes confusion and pisses a lot of people off.
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How on earth are Rooster going to market something without a handicap advantage?

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Originally posted by Contender443

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Perhaps we should help Mr Rooster out then - I will start a new poll. But before I do what is the exact question.
 
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Imagine you are in the market for a hiking singlehander would you buy Project X?
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If off Steves original design brief then almost certainly yes, especially if its built to cope with a 90kg + sailor.

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Originally posted by Contender443

 
[The D1 is has not really sold in the UK and I doubt if it will and the K1 is a mini keelboat.
 
Not sure of the numbers sold for the D-one, but i would think it will sell.  Its a bit like the Musto.  How many boats did that sell with its intial entry to the Market?  Very much like the 700, sold a bunch then dropped off.  Now looking very much like the Musto's poorer sister.
 
I would wait a for more years before drawing to many conclusions...
 
However you are right the OP, hiking single hander (thats the conclusion i drew from the post)

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Originally posted by winging it

Dead right I'm cynical!  I actually think that this is either mr rooster himself or a minion trying to sound us out about what we want from the rpx which could be due for launch next year, sensibly cashing in on the hype surrounding sailing in the olympics.  The knowledge shown in this thread and in the laser thread does not tie in with someone who cannot choose himself a single hander.  The comment about streakers - hugely pimped and promoted by.......rooster, who are also making sails for boats sailed by large middle aged men, seals the deal in my cynical eyes.

There's nothing wrong with market research - I seem to remember rs doing this very effectively with the rs100, but at least be upfront about it!
Perhaps we should help Mr Rooster out then - I will start a new poll. But before I do what is the exact question.
 
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Imagine you are in the market for a hiking singlehander would you buy Project X?
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There's a lot of Other single handers that havent been mentioned - why not? K1, D1, MPS, Rs600, Rs700, vortex......


Because most of those are trapeze boats or are not in the same market as the Laser. Come to think of it neither is the RS100 as it has a kite.....
 

The D1 is has not really sold in the UK and I doubt if it will and the K1 is a mini keelboat.
Sorry I didn't leave the contender out deliberately. The first post says "all suggestions welcome" nothing about no trap
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Originally posted by SimonW99

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I never said the MKII 'Nova was faster or slower than a Mark I, but some people didn't like the look of the MK!. The MKII is fully self draining and stiffer so in waves it does have advantage over a MKI on the sea.
As to the other comments, we have two epoxy streakers, a lightning, a solo, supernova and three rs100's and 4 blazes in the fleet, all of which I sail against regularly and most of which I have sailed or owned, so reasonable to have a view on relative speed. The only one we don't have has a Solution and I doubt anyone would violently disagree that they have little traction which was my only comment on it. Check your facts before you start pronouncing on others. Perhaps you could inform us as to which you have sailed........ Geek


Sailed or owned all in your list but the 100 and the Solution. Enjoyed sailing them, too.
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Originally posted by r2d2

There's a lot of Other single handers that havent been mentioned - why not?
K1, D1, MPS, Rs600, Rs700, vortex......
Because most of those are trapeze boats or are not in the same market as the Laser. Come to think of it neither is the RS100 as it has a kite.....
 
The D1 is has not really sold in the UK and I doubt if it will and the K1 is a mini keelboat.
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