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rogerd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1076 |
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Agreed I have always found its good for the little bits left by the heat gun.
Imust say I am confused as to why it wont come off with the heat gun. It normally works for me.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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By a small tin of Nitromors first and try it, not the great big expensive ones. It never works that well for me.
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rogerd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 25 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1076 |
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I think the most improtant thing is lots of water to wash it off
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doomie22 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 18 Nov 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 12 |
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I am going to go down the nitro mors path as its really annoying me that I am working on it for hours with the heat gun, then see that I have actually not done much at all.
After I have used nitro mors, can any recommend what I can clean the wood with so get rid of it and make sure that when I paint that it will stick please. Thanks Doomie.
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Barty ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 240 |
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For the more adventurous people (and those used to using grinders) you can use a angle grinder with a fine sanding disc on it (the ones made with flaps of sand paper). I did an entire mirror down to almost bare ply in 2 hours and then just finished it off with the orbital......this isn't the way for the inexperienced or feint-hearted but if your comfortable with this kind of tool you can be very accurate and careful.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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> if the paint is in that poor a state, I want to know what is going
> on under it.. I think you're going to find out either way aren't you... By the time you've got down through umpteen layers of top coat and down to undercoat/primer then you are going to know if there are any problems with the underlying skin and treat it appropriately. Twenty layers of top coat will certainly hide a multitude of sins, but by the time you get down to a half layer of paint with a reasonable number of bare patches then you are going to have a pretty shrewd idea what's going on, because cracks, poor adhesion, all the rest of it are going to be highly visible... I'm not advocating leaving paint tha's in a poor state on, I'm just advocating leaving paint that is still good on! Oh, and of course if we are dealing with a painted composite boat (and they have been around long enough to be getting into the restoration stakes now) then you *definitely* don't want to be sanding into the fibres: you definitely need to be stopping at primer/fairing filler. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Jim, I think provided you are doing planned maintenance on a boat that you know the work history on, you are quite correct. Picking up a wreck on ebay is a very different matter - if the paint is in that poor a state, I want to know what is going on under it..
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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That's why these days I don't take my boats back to bare wood. OK its essential if you are going to varnish, but every time you do it you lose a little more strength. I'm now with the paint suppliers, who tell you that provided the old paint is still adhering, you should leave much of it on. I reckon now that I want a prepped boat to be showing about 50/50 undercoat primer, assuming they are distinguishable, with the odd bit of bare wood and top coat left. Looks horrible until you start painting again, but I think its better foor the boat in the long term. The downside of course is you lose all the satisfaction of the bare wood returning (and its a really nice sight :-)), but in my case I may be dealing with 3mm or even thinner ply, and it does no good at all to be removing any of it. Besides which I save an awful lot of effort in surface prep after the first coat goes on because there is so much less work to do in filling bumps, lumps, scraper marks etc etc... Oh, the other exception is if the plywood is already sick, and I want to try epoxy soaking it to keep it alive... |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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The N12 will be cold molded ply, so the top layer may well be thicker than the ply on a sheet built boat. Still easy to go through, though. Love the look of that 12 - good work! Amazed you were able to remove the paint so quickly just by sanding - the garage must have been a sight to see after...
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